Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

This forum is for discussing Chuck's videos as they are publicly released. And for bashing Neelix, but that's just repeating what I already said.
User avatar
clearspira
Overlord
Posts: 5653
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:51 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by clearspira »

CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:56 pm All I think that Stewart has proven with his Space Brexit analogy is that Brexiteers were right. Letting the Romulans into the Federation seems to have caused nothing but hardship for everyone.
Except not.
Oh yes, sorry. Star Trek Picard is a land of candyfloss and rainbows where human no-go zones totally are not a thing.

Y'know, when your liberal utopia is taking queues from Jim Crow then maybe you should have a rethink.
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2927
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by TGLS »

clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:07 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:56 pm All I think that Stewart has proven with his Space Brexit analogy is that Brexiteers were right. Letting the Romulans into the Federation seems to have caused nothing but hardship for everyone.
Except not.
Oh yes, sorry. Star Trek Picard is a land of candyfloss and rainbows where human no-go zones totally are not a thing.

Y'know, when your liberal utopia is taking queues from Jim Crow then maybe you should have a rethink.
The problem with STP is that it's a severely mixed metaphor. It's more like, hm:

OK, so a giant space rock is coming to demolish Beijing, which is a big deal because China is ultra centralized on Beijing. But Al Gore says it'll be OK, he's personally going to nudge the space rock out of the way and everything will be OK. But then he vanishes while doing this and China's fucked.

Then President Biden turns around and says he'll send a rescue fleet to come help them out and resettle displaced people to North Dakota. This isn't popular all over the US, but he's calling in all his favors because it's the right thing to do. But then terrorists blow up Norfolk Naval Shipyard, and Biden drops the whole "Rescue China" thing.

At this point China's been fucked twice by America. Whoever survived is probably (at best) mad at America, and there's a non-insignificant number of people who have become totally intolerant of foreigners in general. Is it right? No, but it's entirely understandable.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
Thebestoftherest
Captain
Posts: 3733
Joined: Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:22 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by Thebestoftherest »

I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
User avatar
BridgeConsoleMasher
Overlord
Posts: 11630
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by BridgeConsoleMasher »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 pm I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
UK withdrawing from the European Union.

It's a major event for state economic affairs concerning trade and domestic policy.
..What mirror universe?
User avatar
TGLS
Captain
Posts: 2927
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:16 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by TGLS »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 pm I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
Brexit is the process of the United Kingdom (i.e. Britain) leaving the European Union. The reasons why depend on who you're talking to.
Image
"I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking 'Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!'"
When I am writing in this font, I am writing in my moderator voice.
Spam-desu
User avatar
clearspira
Overlord
Posts: 5653
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:51 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by clearspira »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 pm I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
Stewart is passionately pro-EU and stated that PIC is meant to be an analogy.
User avatar
CrypticMirror
Captain
Posts: 926
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 2:15 am

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by CrypticMirror »

Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 pm I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
Brexit is the thing which has kept America off the "Dumbest Government" top spot since 2016. The UK voted, based on lies, repeats of Dads Army, and vague third and fourth hand memories of 19thC Imperialism, to leave the EU despite it basically being the only thing keeping the UK economy alive and the UK in one piece [guaranteed EU membership was literally the only thing keeping Scotland from declaring independence in 2014]. It is the single largest self inflicted political wound in history. It is stupid and those that voted for it are stupid, and those who continue to defend it even after the revelations of lies, election malfeasance, Russian intervention[Brexit is second only to Trump's election in Vlad's little gift to himself, and certainly his most long term investment in European instability] and outright corruption, have all built up, are the stupidest of the lot. HTH.
User avatar
CharlesPhipps
Captain
Posts: 4925
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:06 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by CharlesPhipps »

clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:07 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:56 pm
Oh yes, sorry. Star Trek Picard is a land of candyfloss and rainbows where human no-go zones totally are not a thing.

Y'know, when your liberal utopia is taking queues from Jim Crow then maybe you should have a rethink.
What utopia? It's a refugee hellhole because the Federation abandoned them.
User avatar
BridgeConsoleMasher
Overlord
Posts: 11630
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:18 am

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by BridgeConsoleMasher »

They were out of Federation territory weren't they?

Really I wonder how the Federation would tolerate "no humans" areas.
..What mirror universe?
User avatar
clearspira
Overlord
Posts: 5653
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:51 pm

Re: Star Trek 3: Search for Spock

Post by clearspira »

CrypticMirror wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:31 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:16 pm I'm a dumb american what is brexit exactly?
Brexit is the thing which has kept America off the "Dumbest Government" top spot since 2016. The UK voted, based on lies, repeats of Dads Army, and vague third and fourth hand memories of 19thC Imperialism, to leave the EU despite it basically being the only thing keeping the UK economy alive and the UK in one piece [guaranteed EU membership was literally the only thing keeping Scotland from declaring independence in 2014]. It is the single largest self inflicted political wound in history. It is stupid and those that voted for it are stupid, and those who continue to defend it even after the revelations of lies, election malfeasance, Russian intervention[Brexit is second only to Trump's election in Vlad's little gift to himself, and certainly his most long term investment in European instability] and outright corruption, have all built up, are the stupidest of the lot. HTH.
One of the most glorious things about voting Brexit was to stick my middle finger up at people who hold such condescending views. I've enjoyed watching people like you rip yourselves apart trying to justify why so many turned their backs on the EU project for the last four years and i'm not even joking. If believing that I voted because of Dad's Army repeats, Russian interference and 19th century imperialism makes you feel better then keep on believing it. And as for Scotland, you are making a mistake that many have made since all of this began: assuming that the English independence movement isn't a thing. If you only get your news from the MSM then you would be forgiven for thinking that its Scotland alone and every Englishman loves the UK but that is far from being true.

At this point I will also remind you that LePenn came a close second in France and the far right in Germany is believed by many to be at its highest point since WW2. It ain't just Little Old England that is rejecting federalism.
Post Reply