Coronavirus - the new pandemic

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Well in some personal good news my dad who is a medical worker just got vaccinated for the regular covid today so that's something!
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clearspira wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 7:21 pm And... ANOTHER new Covid strain in the UK. This one is from South Africa. And this one supposedly has a tendency to re-infect people who have already had it.

Plague island indeed.
Some have been saying it before, I'll repeat it as well: There's more than one or two CoViD-strains around since quite a while now and it's baffling to me, how this has seemingly slipped general notice especially in the research-community.

If people get reinfected, but not everybody, then either something is special about the infected or the disease. Research seems to have ignored the later option. If people get not infected on a larger scale despite risky behaviour or environment at one time, but suddenly get infected on a mass scale under the exact same conditions or even under stricter restrictions, then either their behaviour and interactions have changed or the disease has changed it's vector or agressiveness. Research seems to have ignored the later.

At this point I wonder how long it will take, until scientists realise that those people who have no or little symptoms are in fact infected with a different strain than those, who die like five minutes after someone coughed near them.
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I heard someone make an interesting point on the radio today. About 3000 people died in 9/11. The current US death rate is averaging nearly 1000 a day. That's a 9/11 every three days. This is a death toll that Bin Laden could only have imagined in his deepest fantasies. And yet, whereas 9/11 swept the whole US into a fervour of patriotism and defiance; Covid-19 has split it down the middle.

I'm making no point here and certainly not against America, I just found it an interesting insight into the human psyche. It seems like it is a lot easier for us to unite when there is a man we can point our guns at as opposed to a virus.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:17 pm I heard someone make an interesting point on the radio today. About 3000 people died in 9/11. The current US death rate is averaging nearly 1000 a day. That's a 9/11 every three days. This is a death toll that Bin Laden could only have imagined in his deepest fantasies. And yet, whereas 9/11 swept the whole US into a fervour of patriotism and defiance; Covid-19 has split it down the middle.

I'm making no point here and certainly not against America, I just found it an interesting insight into the human psyche. It seems like it is a lot easier for us to unite when there is a man we can point our guns at as opposed to a virus.
I rather feel the problem and disconnect between the people and issue is, that it is all so far away. When 9/11 happened, the planes crashing into the towers, the fires, smoke and collapsing was everywhere to be seen and the effect on the skyline of New York was unmistakeable. It literally didn't matter where you were, you were right in the middle of the happenings.
The dead of CoViD however? Closed doors, stored in containers, burned as fast as possible by necessity. It happens out of sight for the vast majority. If we placed the dead on the town's market square, people would stop being stupid about it instantly.
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clearspira wrote: Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:17 pm I heard someone make an interesting point on the radio today. About 3000 people died in 9/11. The current US death rate is averaging nearly 1000 a day. That's a 9/11 every three days. This is a death toll that Bin Laden could only have imagined in his deepest fantasies. And yet, whereas 9/11 swept the whole US into a fervour of patriotism and defiance; Covid-19 has split it down the middle.
I think that one of the big differences there is that 9/11 was the result of a deliberate act to cause harm.
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We're at two million dead. And that's just the confirmed count; its probably a lot higher.
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I would guess that places that many places are underreporting their deaths. I would say that many of the African countries are underreporting because they don't have the means of testing and places like China are (of course) faking their numbers.
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Do you have any basis for that?

One reason a lot of countries in Africa have done well during the pandemic is this aint their first rodeo. They dealt with Ebola and LEARNED from it. They built infrastructure and they made sure everyone washes their damn hands. Meanwhile we're over here doing the same stupid shit we did in 1918.
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A fifth virus-strain apparently appeart in Garmisch-Partenkirchen (Germany) - so it's nearly a year, we have five strains and still German idiots fail to adhear to the so called "AHA+L"-rules, meaning Distance Hygiene, Mask and Ventilate, still Idiots were running around, protesting against the "corona dictatorship" and I ask myself, if they have ever lived in something like a dictatorship.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:35 pm We're at two million dead. And that's just the confirmed count; its probably a lot higher.
And 400,000 in the U.S. alone.

We need William Hurt to go visit Donald Trump and simply ask this:


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