Brexit Done and Dusted

[Thebestoftherest]

Clearspira What is that? I only found one twitter account with not enough views to be worth talking about.

[Riedquat]

Always good to use an opinion piece as a source for facts.

So Brexit still happening?

Of course. The BrExit where Britain still needs to adhere to European Standards in order to have free access to the european markets or risk it's goods being subject to taxes and clearspira considers it a success.

Does that mean constantly or only in dealing with the EU? Hopefully we'll move away over time if it's the former - that ludicrous level or internal control over what country's do which doesn't involve cross-border trade with other EU members shouldn't ever be acceptable to any sovereign nation. It closes out all sorts of descisions that should be decided at the ballot box.

[CmdrKing]

So it looks like Irish Reunification will happen 2-3 years sooner than Star Trek predicted then.

[Madner Kami]

Always good to use an opinion piece as a source for facts.

So Brexit still happening?

Of course. The BrExit where Britain still needs to adhere to European Standards in order to have free access to the european markets or risk it's goods being subject to taxes and clearspira considers it a success.

Does that mean constantly or only in dealing with the EU? Hopefully we'll move away over time if it's the former - that ludicrous level or internal control over what country's do which doesn't involve cross-border trade with other EU members shouldn't ever be acceptable to any sovereign nation. It closes out all sorts of descisions that should be decided at the ballot box.

In dealing with the EU, obviously. And it doesn't concern the sovereignty of a nation anyways, for two simple reasons:
1) It's a trade deal, negotiated between peaceful nations or nation conglomerates. Nobody forced them to accept that offer.
2) The elected sovereign negotiated the deal and agreed to it and thus it can't be, by definition, against the sovereignty of the nation. Unless you want to tell me, that the elected officials aren't doing what the people voted them into office for in the first place. Well, then there's the ballot box for a different choice of officials next time.

And for the record, it's rather rich to talk of the sovereignty of a nation, when talking about the United Kingdom. You know, the conglomerate of the northern irish (conquered in war and subject to ethnic cleansing, displacement and criminal neglect on a scale second only to what happened in British India), scottish (conquered in war repeatedly), welsh (conquered in war) and english nations, of which three have limited national sovereignty and are largely subservient to the whims of the 4th nation.

[unknownsample]

British fisherman not impressed by this deal.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ERFloKztyI

“The deal means we’re still tied to the apron strings of the EU, we’re not an independent coastal state,” said Portus, whose organisation represents almost a third of the 300 or so large trawlers operating out of ports such as Newlyn in south-west Cornwall and Brixham, south Devon. “We should have been deciding the rules and regulations on how to manage those stocks so that we took control of access arrangements for other countries.”

Fishing rights were one of the final sticking points in the post-Brexit trade talks, largely due to their political weight, but Portus feels that ultimately Boris Johnson caved in.

[Draco Dracul]

So it looks like Irish Reunification will happen 2-3 years sooner than Star Trek predicted then.

Yep, at this point it's not matter when, not if Ireland will reunite. Especially since they boarder there is effectively no boarder between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, but there is one between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. And that's how it was always going to role out because doing it the other way ends with no trade deal with the US as the Good Friday agreement is a red line for a large number of powerful politicians, including President-Elect Joe Biden, and would also lead to millions of American dollars going directly into the pockets of Irish terrorist groups.

[Madner Kami]

Well, does anyone remember the "Raisin Bombers", which kept Western Berlin fed during the Soviet Blockade in 1948/49? Well, Germany didn't forget the gesture and effort and returns the favour in 2020/2021, though to the UK:

https://twitter.com/lufthansaNews/statu ... 3672599553

Lufthansa News
@lufthansaNews
We are sending a @BoeingAirplanes B777 Freighter to Doncaster Sheffield @DSA_Airport. On board: 80 tons of fruits and vegetables. @Lufthansa_Cargo is currently examining whether additional special cargo flights can be offered during the next days. Watch #LH8352 on @flightradar24

[Thebestoftherest]

So it looks like Irish Reunification will happen 2-3 years sooner than Star Trek predicted then.

Yep, at this point it's not matter when, not if Ireland will reunite. Especially since they boarder there is effectively no boarder between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, but there is one between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. And that's how it was always going to role out because doing it the other way ends with no trade deal with the US as the Good Friday agreement is a red line for a large number of powerful politicians, including President-Elect Joe Biden, and would also lead to millions of American dollars going directly into the pockets of Irish terrorist groups.

Wait is Ireland it own country now?

[Madner Kami]

The fuck? This is the second post in a row of you, that makes me wonder whether you are actually part of this dimension or an outsider...

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

So it looks like Irish Reunification will happen 2-3 years sooner than Star Trek predicted then.

Yep, at this point it's not matter when, not if Ireland will reunite. Especially since they boarder there is effectively no boarder between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, but there is one between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK. And that's how it was always going to role out because doing it the other way ends with no trade deal with the US as the Good Friday agreement is a red line for a large number of powerful politicians, including President-Elect Joe Biden, and would also lead to millions of American dollars going directly into the pockets of Irish terrorist groups.

Wait is Ireland it own country now?

Not only that but technically it's got two.