Jodie Whittaker steps down as Dr Who

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Do you have any iconic black or female character that regularly metamorphizes into somebody played by a different actor in mind?

No - but that's semantics. Men often lose their genitals whenever there is a reboot. You need not be a shape-shifting alien.

True story: Abrams considered making Kirk a woman. And I'm sure the usual crowds that would have praised him for his "bravery" if he had done so would also have welcomed a male white Uhura *sarcasm*

No, it's not semantics, it's fundamental to the nature of the Doctor and the franchise. There is a huge difference between a plain old recast and a regeneration. It's why the series has been able to last so long.

This is not Star Trek. This is not a reboot. This is a show about a near-immortal traveler who has had many faces, many personalities, and never any fixed abode. It's an anthology series which just happens to have the same character in every story.

[Thebestoftherest]

True, plus let's be honest Abrams never care about Star Trek lore or he wouldn't have made Khan a white guy at the first opportunity.

[clearspira]

I haven't heard anything to confirmed it. Personally I would love if she stay for a four series just as a middle finger to the incel who insulted her before she even began.

Nero fiddled as Rome burned too.

[Link8909]

No, it's not semantics, it's fundamental to the nature of the Doctor and the franchise. There is a huge difference between a plain old recast and a regeneration. It's why the series has been able to last so long.

This is not Star Trek. This is not a reboot. This is a show about a near-immortal traveler who has had many faces, many personalities, and never any fixed abode. It's an anthology series which just happens to have the same character in every story.

Indeed, when they came up with the idea of regeneration, it was so anyone could fill the role of the Doctor with a different portrayal, clearspira's comparison simply doesn't work as it removes this aspect of the series.

Also clearspira, your tolerance for suspension of disbelief is odd, so an alien that uses a Police Box to travel throughout space and time, that is thousands of years old, has two hearts, can feel changes in the timeline, and can regenerate their entire body (basically becoming a whole new person) when close to death, that's fine, but the Doctor regenerates into a women, that's the deal breaker?

[Thebestoftherest]

No, it's not semantics, it's fundamental to the nature of the Doctor and the franchise. There is a huge difference between a plain old recast and a regeneration. It's why the series has been able to last so long.

This is not Star Trek. This is not a reboot. This is a show about a near-immortal traveler who has had many faces, many personalities, and never any fixed abode. It's an anthology series which just happens to have the same character in every story.

Indeed, when they came up with he idea of regeneration, it was so anyone could fill the role of the Doctor with a different portrayal, clearspira's comparison simply doesn't work as it removes this aspect of the series.

Also clearspira, your tolerance for suspension of disbelief is odd, so an alien that uses a Police Box to travel throughout space and time, that is thousands of years old, has two hearts, can feel changes in the timeline, and can regenerate their entire body (basically becoming a whole new person) when close to death, that's fine, but the Doctor regenerates into a women, that's the deal breaker?

I wonder if they just don't like change, and rather the show stay static.

[Link8909]

I wonder if they just don't like change, and rather the show stay static.

I feel that's the case with any fandom, this video I feel perfectly encapsulation this mindset:

youtu.be/wSC1qHCBiCk

And as one commenter on the video says:

The internet in a nutshell
Wants something
>gets it
Ugh this is such garbage
>10 years later
Remember when insert game here was good I wish they would remake it
rinse and repeat

Plus people nowadays seem to just want to be angry all the time, and have forgotten how to feel anything else.

[CaptainCalvinCat]

No, it's not semantics, it's fundamental to the nature of the Doctor and the franchise. There is a huge difference between a plain old recast and a regeneration. It's why the series has been able to last so long.

This is not Star Trek. This is not a reboot. This is a show about a near-immortal traveler who has had many faces, many personalities, and never any fixed abode. It's an anthology series which just happens to have the same character in every story.

Indeed, when they came up with the idea of regeneration, it was so anyone could fill the role of the Doctor with a different portrayal, clearspira's comparison simply doesn't work as it removes this aspect of the series.

Also clearspira, your tolerance for suspension of disbelief is odd, so an alien that uses a Police Box to travel throughout space and time, that is thousands of years old, has two hearts, can feel changes in the timeline, and can regenerate their entire body (basically becoming a whole new person) when close to death, that's fine, but the Doctor regenerates into a women, that's the deal breaker?

Oh, I concur.
Plus, concerning the allegedly "abismal" stories, I'd go this far and say: "The people rambling about the bad stories wanted the show to fail." It's the 'sour grape"-thing, if you ask me.
Some of them just were unhappy, that the Doctor now was a woman - so they found anything, anything that they could choose to "not like".

I came into the fandom with Chris Eccleston and while the saying goes, that "Your first doctor will forever be your doctor" I couldn't agree. I mean, 9ths storys were okay - but my favourite Doctor was and always will be Matt Smiths 11th. But I watched some of the classics, liked Colin Baker more than Tom Baker, thought the Trick, that Toms Doctor played on Leela was a bit too annoying, and you don't annoy the woman with the short temper and the knife, no matter how much teeth you show, while smiling.

But anyway, my favourite Doctor was Matt Smith and when he left and Capaldi took over, I liked him, but gotta say, one of my least favourite episodes of his run would be the one, where he spent lots of years in the Confession Dial and run through it, talking to himself.
I liked the follow up to that episode, though.

And then I bought the first run of Jodie Whitaker and from the buzz around the Internet, I was expecting some true atrocious storytelling and - nothing.
The episodes were quite entertaining, I liked the Doctor, I liked the companions and then season 1 of the female Doctor was done.
Favourite Episode: Rosa

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Then the buzz about "How bad the 13th Doctors run would be" got louder, I saw that people stopped watching the show, and thought "Oh my gosh, is this it? Is this the big stinker?"
No - still nothing.

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Not even the "timeless child" was something, that was so annoying to me - quite the contrary, I thought, it was quite an interesting story.

[Thebestoftherest]

Yeah, i think that other than the timeless child itself the rest of that season finale was pretty good.

[clearspira]

Yeah, i think that other than the timeless child itself the rest of that season finale was pretty good.

Isn't that like saying, ''apart from the gunshot wound she's pretty good!''

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I mean, every season has its ups and downs. I've only watched the First Jodie season. I loved the witch hunt episode, found the spider episode pretty weak and unsatisfying (for some reason Doctor Who really struggles to do good episodes about spiders), and Kerblam! was so good right up until the hard left turn twist ending that ruined the rest of the episode retroactively.