Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:29 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:12 pm Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
Why not just explain it to me? Again, him freeing his slaves was good enough for the early abolitionist movement.
Because any time we explain something to you, you respond with "I will concede that, but" or "I still feel" and be right back on your bullshit.
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Re: Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:15 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:29 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:12 pm Silence, clown. We are trying to have a proper discussion.
Why not just explain it to me? Again, him freeing his slaves was good enough for the early abolitionist movement.
Because any time we explain something to you, you respond with "I will concede that, but" or "I still feel" and be right back on your bullshit.
I only do that on the cop thread because I am personally invested in cop safety and mental health.
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If you're worry about cops so much talk to your relative about quitting and shut up.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:03 pm
phantom000 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:38 pm We don't build statues for traitors and we don't build statues for losers. The confederates were both. No participation trophies.
You know what they say; those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.
Indeed, that's why we need to remove the statures and memorials to Confederates as they actively paint a false history, as if you learn a false history you aren't learning history at all.
Question: how can you be sure that is not painting an equally false version of history in that its removing the parts of history that don't fit into a more convenient version of history?
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That actually an interesting.
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phantom000 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:21 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:03 pm
phantom000 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:38 pm We don't build statues for traitors and we don't build statues for losers. The confederates were both. No participation trophies.
You know what they say; those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.
Indeed, that's why we need to remove the statures and memorials to Confederates as they actively paint a false history, as if you learn a false history you aren't learning history at all.
Question: how can you be sure that is not painting an equally false version of history in that its removing the parts of history that don't fit into a more convenient version of history?
Can't really, but you just admitted it's false. You actually have to see protestors do something bad instead of just saying "lol noobs, learn how to history."
..What mirror universe?
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PHANTOM000 I need to asked, if it is causing to people living now pain for the comfort of people who die decades ago why keep them?
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phantom000 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:21 pm
Draco Dracul wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:03 pm
phantom000 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:38 pm We don't build statues for traitors and we don't build statues for losers. The confederates were both. No participation trophies.
You know what they say; those who don't remember the past are doomed to repeat it.
Indeed, that's why we need to remove the statures and memorials to Confederates as they actively paint a false history, as if you learn a false history you aren't learning history at all.
Question: how can you be sure that is not painting an equally false version of history in that its removing the parts of history that don't fit into a more convenient version of history?
Because first hand sources we have that were written by the Confederates are quite clear that the government was founded, above all else, to ensure the institution of chattel slavery would last forever.
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Agree and those statues is to promote a lie. Removing one lie doesn't mean another lie just happened.
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And I need to point out: Those confederate statues did not get put up until well into the 20th century, and that was specifically to give a message to blacks: You'll never be equal.
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