Gina Carano fired

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Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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I really have to wonder what the future of TM is going to be. Grogu's gone, the Jake cameo is a thing of the past, and I'd wager most people still don't know the star's name, Din Djarin, and now the menacers and right are latching to this in their political zeal. Let me note, in no way am I saying TM is doomed. Just that recently, as it's become more about TCW style fanservice, and with Ahsoka on her way to her own spin-off series, I wonder how the numbers will figure when it's all said and done. They'll probably dip a bit, but in no way is TM on the danger of cancellation.
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Hey Captain if the current republican climate not like the thrid reich why does the glove so nicely.
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There are several strange things going on in regard to this news.
She is a relatively minor celebrity who happens to be on a prominent presence on a popular TV show that is part of a franchise known for fans that don't shut the fuck up with their complaining and whose bitching often co opted by lunatic right-wingers.

1) Her appearance was criticized as being "woke" by lunatics on youtube; the same lunatics are now bemoaning her firing because she was saying things that agree with their persecution complexes.

2) Her bullshit did not stop Disney from casting her initially, and it was only after escalation that they acted, so the idea that she is being persecuted is laughable, you can be shitty, just can't be shitty in a way that harms the brand. The Mouse takes a bullet for no one. The comparison to Chris Pratt is apt, as his behavior and beliefs are at best tolerant of bigots, but he projects his likable demeanor and positive presence as a coworker, not his politics.

These are the two big categories that this fallout falls into, the community of shitty people that monetize outrage and the professional culture that is surprisingly tolerant of the actress' behavior so long as it doesn't cost them money.

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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:47 pm There are several strange things going on in regard to this news.
She is a relatively minor celebrity who happens to be on a prominent presence on a popular TV show that is part of a franchise known for fans that don't shut the fuck up with their complaining and whose bitching often co opted by lunatic right-wingers.

1) Her appearance was criticized as being "woke" by lunatics on youtube; the same lunatics are now bemoaning her firing because she was saying things that agree with their persecution complexes.

2) Her bullshit did not stop Disney from casting her initially, and it was only after escalation that they acted, so the idea that she is being persecuted is laughable, you can be shitty, just can't be shitty in a way that harms the brand. The Mouse takes a bullet for no one. The comparison to Chris Pratt is apt, as his behavior and beliefs are at best tolerant of bigots, but he projects his likable demeanor and positive presence as a coworker, not his politics.

These are the two big categories that this fallout falls into, the community of shitty people that monetize outrage and the professional culture that is surprisingly tolerant of the actress' behavior so long as it doesn't cost them money.

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Yeah, although some of these celebrities I would love if they said what is going on in their heads. Seriously some of those comments if you made on the street someone might deck you.
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She wasn't spewing venom and outright bigotry. She just has a view you disagree with. Meanwhile, someone like Ms. Ireland says "men suck!" And someone at LF said "all whites are racist!" This is what woke is. I remember mixing it up with Mr. Wendig a few years ago, after reading his god-awful book Aftermath, where he accused me of homophobia. Wha? I already had the EU, I'd had a few gay characters there, that's not what bothered me, it was the horrible writing. And then he accused the EU movement of review-bombing Amazon, when back then, we were mostly active on Del Rey and Marvel's social media outlets, pushing for more Legends. He didn't understand there were perks and rewards that prompted so much positive review-bombing, but that didn't stop him from accusing me of bigotry.

This is why the woke left will never get mainstream appeal.
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Didn't she deny the holocaust or was that someone else.
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Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm She wasn't spewing venom and outright bigotry. She just has a view you disagree with.
The false equivalency of (and I'll paraphrase), "I am being oppressed for my political views, just like the jews were persecuted in Nazi Germany" is hateful nonsense.

She says snide and abusive bullshit and when she is called out for it, she plays the victim.
That is bad behavior and since she did not reign it in, she got fired.

Being shitty about a marginalized group and then claiming you are being persecuted is not a viewpoint, it is just being shitty.
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm Meanwhile, someone like Ms. Ireland says "men suck!" And someone at LF said "all whites are racist!" This is what woke is. I remember mixing it up with Mr. Wendig a few years ago, after reading his god-awful book Aftermath, where he accused me of homophobia. Wha? I already had the EU, I'd had a few gay characters there, that's not what bothered me, it was the horrible writing. And then he accused the EU movement of review-bombing Amazon, when back then, we were mostly active on Del Rey and Marvel's social media outlets, pushing for more Legends. He didn't understand there were perks and rewards that prompted so much positive review-bombing, but that didn't stop him from accusing me of bigotry.

This is why the woke left will never get mainstream appeal.
I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know what any of the things you are talking about has to do with the Mandalorian.
What the fuck are you talking about? Don't answer. I don't actually care. This is me being rhetorical to illustrate how you are the exact sort of persecution complex the youtube shitheads are trying to monetize.
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm She wasn't spewing venom and outright bigotry. She just has a view you disagree with.
The false equivalency of (and I'll paraphrase), "I am being oppressed for my political views, just like the jews were persecuted in Nazi Germany" is hateful nonsense.

She says snide and abusive bullshit and when she is called out for it, she plays the victim.
That is bad behavior and since she did not reign it in, she got fired.

Being shitty about a marginalized group and then claiming you are being persecuted is not a viewpoint, it is just being shitty.
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:15 pm Meanwhile, someone like Ms. Ireland says "men suck!" And someone at LF said "all whites are racist!" This is what woke is. I remember mixing it up with Mr. Wendig a few years ago, after reading his god-awful book Aftermath, where he accused me of homophobia. Wha? I already had the EU, I'd had a few gay characters there, that's not what bothered me, it was the horrible writing. And then he accused the EU movement of review-bombing Amazon, when back then, we were mostly active on Del Rey and Marvel's social media outlets, pushing for more Legends. He didn't understand there were perks and rewards that prompted so much positive review-bombing, but that didn't stop him from accusing me of bigotry.

This is why the woke left will never get mainstream appeal.
I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know what any of the things you are talking about has to do with the Mandalorian.
What the fuck are you talking about? Don't answer. I don't actually care. This is me being rhetorical to illustrate how you are the exact sort of persecution complex the youtube shitheads are trying to monetize.
Yeah whenever someone use the word woke as an insult I replace it with the word rebel, and SJW with Rebel scum. Let see how his line works then.

'This is why the Rebel scum will never get mainstream appeal.'
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Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 pm The false equivalency of (and I'll paraphrase), "I am being oppressed for my political views, just like the jews were persecuted in Nazi Germany" is hateful nonsense.
She's been nothing but respectful to actual fans, that's not hate, that's just a different political view, and it's actually having larger-scale consequences, as we're seeing RN. Look at how badly the polls were off. If you can't trust them on the election results, why should we trust anything they say about society? This is what breeds millions of silent voters. Again, in Hollywood, if you're even slightly right, you can be blackballed and ostracized. It's the right of businesses to not associate with somebody, but it's also the reason corporate and government expansion is out of control.

This isn't hate, and that you think it is, that's just sad. It's at worst an allegory to show divisions in our society are as bad as the Weimar Republic, and yet the woke mobs blame the alt-right, the centrists and righties blame the SJWs, and round and round we go.
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 pm She says snide and abusive bullshit and when she is called out for it, she plays the victim.
That is bad behavior and since she did not reign it in, she got fired.
What we've seen for months and what started this whole mess are these SJWs who demanded she put pronouns in her bio to bend the knee to the LGBT community and she refused to do that. Again, that's not hate, it's her right to do so, and yet an actual tough woman with a history of boxing, well, these fake feminists couldn't handle that. :lol:
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 pm Being shitty about a marginalized group and then claiming you are being persecuted is not a viewpoint, it is just being shitty.
She literally did not say "republicans are the Jews of 1930s Germany." Just that systematic brainwashing and the elites pushing their agenda can turn people against one another. That's just a gross misrepresentation of the words used. Where was she supposedly homophobic or racist? Can you point me to anything? You can't. Refusing to put pronouns in your bio doesn't make you homophobic or transphobic. As to those claims that she was involved in an altercation with someone from the LGBT, those particular charges were dropped.

This is why woke never goes anywhere. There's literally no hate here. All the hate I see coming from is you, just blistering and seething. I mean, really, if you're seething that much, get some professional help.
Rocketboy1313 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:57 pm I don't know what you are talking about. I don't know what any of the things you are talking about has to do with the Mandalorian.
What the fuck are you talking about? Don't answer. I don't actually care. This is me being rhetorical to illustrate how you are the exact sort of persecution complex the youtube shitheads are trying to monetize.
Convenient, hm? I could go grab the tweets. The video clips. Would you just say they've been doctored, however?
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