Gina Carano fired

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Re: Gina Carano fired

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:32 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:03 am She's not getting fired because she favors deregulation or her stance on the deficit. She's getting fired for unprofessional conduct.
I mean for as far as we know, I'm pretty content with the logic here.

Calling for voting security was at most conservative noise. And I don't think Disney personally cares about pronoun sensitivity, as it's mostly just sandbox antics at Twitter, as tacky as you can come off doing what she did unironically. Given all that into account, using the particular image is decidedly vulgar.

And like TYT even agreed, like she shouldn't be fired by progressive principle necessarily, but we don't really have evidence of that happening here lol. The same thing happened with James Gunn, and it's mostly just a matter of Disney inc. treating the issue really sensitively like they always do. At this rate they might hire her back just the same.

But boy if I don't feel like this is more a case of someone being too cool for school than it is a pivotal awakening about partisan squabbling. Admittedly I'm just at a loss as far as what she perceives as conservatives being targeted specifically. Like what is she referring to by proxy, the Trump hearing?
Considering that "voting security" was the justification for the failed coup d'etat against the United States just over a month ago, I would say that it's more than just conservative noise at this point.
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Draco Dracul wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:53 am Considering that "voting security" was the justification for the failed coup d'etat against the United States just over a month ago, I would say that it's more than just conservative noise at this point.
... It doesn't really work like that. Trying to do the coup itself is what's treasonous not the much more common underlying conservative rhetoric. People forget, that, while leftist rhetoric is particularly high order social assessment, conservative rhetoric depends on a fetish for accountability among each other. The systemic implications of what she's saying doesn't quite compromise her position that much because they aren't exclusively legs for a fascist overtaking.

And the people weren't doing a coup for voting security specifically lol, just in case i have to make that clear. They didn't want Trump to lose the election to the Democrats of all people, and they also don't really understand principles of democracy, plainly put.
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And TBF, the dems aren't helping themselves, everything I see says they're going to keep stoking the flames. That's how the game of politics is played. But it's having huge societal consequences and backlash now, so they can't ignore it. The ball's in their court, let's see what they do. I just think it's gonna end badly for them, and all of us.

As for the trans bullying, I found out what it was - it has me facepalming. The Twitter SJWs were DEMANDING she put pronouns in her bios, which, she has every right not to. The same way Disney had the right to fire her or a business has a right not to make gay wedding cakes. After taking it for so long, she finally broke down and put in a few robot words. "Beep Bop Boop." And I actually laughed at that. THAT'S the abuse she was guilty of? Because I do think it's horrible trans have such a high suicide rate. I get that. It's a brutal jungle of a world out there, especially with our leaders stirring the pot, so get in line. They need more help than they get, but then it puts me in mind of that old movie, My Fellow Americans from Mr. Lemmon's character.
"'The voice of the people?' There is no such thing. You got 250 million voices all screaming something different at you. The only thing you all seem to agree on is you don't want higher taxes. The voice of the people, my fanny!"
That's more legit with every passing day. We can't have healing unless one side is willing to that it doesn't matter who started it now. Because battle lines are drawn, and unless our leaders are more responsible, this is gonna get REALLY ugly, fast...
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Wait people keep mentioning her bio, what do you mean?
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A bunch of Twitter SJWs were demanding she put pronouns in her bio, something to do with the LGBT, and so finally she made it into a joke, turning it into robot text. "Beep Bop Boop." That's not transphobic, at all. People are just repeating rumors, it's becoming gossip, and soon the original nuance is lost. Yes, she was accused of beating up somebody trans - but that court case was thrown out, and in America - theoretically at least, the system consistently fails on this - it's innocent till proven guilty. Others have more far superior breakdowns on this than I could, but past the court case, past that joke, I haven't found anything to indicate she's transphobic, it's just become a big, giant, angry hateful mess. I was there in the front lines at Gamergate, and this feels way bigger than that...

The country's about to explode. You got people saying she's ANTI-SEMITIC?! Is this a joke?! Making a faulty comparison is being done in bad taste, an American conservative Jew pretty much admitted that. But it's not anti-Semitism. Online, people are just hurling these words way too casually. And as I've said, that American Jewish conservative is going on to work with her now. Do you see that kind of maturity between left versus right ATM? You do not. Politics is no longer a spectrum, it's right or left, a hill that both sides seem willing to die on under the belief it's grounded in morality, and you can bet the GOP is going to return this in 2022 and 2024. We've lost the ability to discuss anything with nuance. Mr. Chuck has said this before at times, and this is why he doesn't post here. He'd be eviscerated.

Mr. Trump is gone, but the DNC is gonna learn very soon that he was never the cause, he's just the symptom to a larger, brewing, dangerous systematic issue. And they know that. He's just a good way to stoke the flames and rally to the cause. The GOP did the same damned thing with Ms. Clinton. Like, OMG, it's just tiring! GROW THE F*** UP, PEOPLE!
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clearspira wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:36 pmHere's my advice for y'all for what its worth: if you ever get famous, keep your mouth shut on Twitter. I cannot think of another force on Earth that has ended more careers than Twitter has. Just use it for talking about your work and nothing else.
George Clooney said it best:

"If you're gonna ask people to pay money to come see you in a movie, they don't need to know your every thought all the time. I think there has to be some element of mystery. There's a real danger when you're really famous. I can have a drink or two at night; I don't need to have an apparatus that, in a drunken joke, even, I could say something, go to sleep, and wake up in the morning and my career be over.”
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Makeshift Python wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:26 am
clearspira wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:36 pmHere's my advice for y'all for what its worth: if you ever get famous, keep your mouth shut on Twitter. I cannot think of another force on Earth that has ended more careers than Twitter has. Just use it for talking about your work and nothing else.
George Clooney said it best:

"If you're gonna ask people to pay money to come see you in a movie, they don't need to know your every thought all the time. I think there has to be some element of mystery. There's a real danger when you're really famous. I can have a drink or two at night; I don't need to have an apparatus that, in a drunken joke, even, I could say something, go to sleep, and wake up in the morning and my career be over.”
Where the fox did you read that?
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Riedquat wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:28 pm
BBally81 wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:02 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:35 pm Offensive, how?
Comparing herself to Jews being oppressed by the Nazi regime because people calling out on her BS for one.
Fairly run-of-the-mill rhetoric. Quite honestly reflects badly on those who get really worked up instead of just rolling their eyes at most.
Her liking tweets supporting the Capitol riots which was an act of terrorism.
That's something that's rather more relevant to the current world and hence a bit more indicitive of being a jerk.
Pushing the whole anti-mask agenda, which is likely offensive to people who caught it or lost loved ones to the pandemic.
Another issue in which people have retreated to black and white excessive extremes, so it's all too easy just to get exasperated with the lack of thought for anyone sticking their oar in.
Is that enough for you? :|
If I was thinking of voting for her, instead of just watching something she happens to be acting in, maybe.
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I think you're slightly stretching it to find excuses here.
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Just FYI, while y'all were talking about Carano being fired, Biden continued to fail to get a $15 min. wage.

Just thought I'd roll social media digest back about 4 years.
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BBally81 wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:33 pmI think you're slightly stretching it to find excuses here.
As far as looking bad on the people who react to it, I think that's not very well founded amongst the broad public. But I agree with RQ conditionally. Everything else from Carano stems more from a lack of understanding of progressive curriculum, granted with that being an apparent facet of one's sociopolitical stance. Assessing her statements as tyrannical is kind of backwards when it's more a matter of just an inflated status among the public (as all celebrities are).
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