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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 pm
It leaves everybody's worlds facing each other much more intimately, which lead to the growing divide of secular conservatives and equality of outcome advocates for respective reasons of crude democratic positioning.
I literally don't know what groups you're talking about because secular conservatives are basically nonexistent in the US die to how heavily American Conseratism is tied to white evangelical churches. Also is "equality of outcome advocates" supposed to be code for communists? Because most communists these days will just tell you that they are communists and most progressive liberals are pushing for reducing the opportunity gap, but actually closing it isn't actually possible under capitalism as the children of the rich can always just buy more opportunities and the children of the poor may never get them at all.
I'm just talking about social media and how people got absorbed to the left or right. Secular conservative more refers to the gamergaters or peppes who don't really fit in with the young republicans but more or less eventually find representation in Trump, and are basically just fighting to keep things how they like it more than operating on a political ideology.
The equality of outcome advocates can refer to communists, but it's more practically a catch all term for people that find discrepancies in social statistics and attribute them to systems of marginalization and oppression.
These are more or less the representative faces that the newer generations spawned and to which political circuiting more or less revolves around the opposition between.
Al-1701 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm
I wonder if there was an attempt to save this by Favraeu and crew. I would think they would go to bat for her considering how the Mandelorian is right now selling Disney+ and her character is popular. I would think even Iger would have wanted to keep her. She could have come out and said her comparison was tasteless and apologized, and could've possibly saved it. There would be a tempest in a teapot, but it would blow over by the time Season 3 hit Disney+. However, given the nature of her statements when she was picked up by The Daily Wire, she might have refused that.
They gave her several chances but she just couldn't help herself.
Frankly, I don't think she was all that integral to the show. She was just a side character that popped up every now and then to be a badass, and that's all there was to her. Ted Cruz went onto make it seem like she was the only badass woman in the franchise, but seems to forget the other badass women in the show like Katee Sackhoff (who's a MUCH better actress than Carano). Apparently Leia wasn't a badass woman, news to me. Even though I didn't care much for Padme, her arc in THE PHANTOM MENACE is actually pretty solid in that she's a queen that decides to rescue her people without the help of the Republic. The Jedi were helpful for sure, but she did a ton of the legwork storming in her own palace to reclaim her throne.
Meanwhile, Carano is a pretty good sharpshooter and can fight well. I'm sure there's plenty others.
Ted Cruz is a tool, everybody knows that.
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Al-1701 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:09 pm
I wonder if there was an attempt to save this by Favraeu and crew. I would think they would go to bat for her considering how the Mandelorian is right now selling Disney+ and her character is popular. I would think even Iger would have wanted to keep her. She could have come out and said her comparison was tasteless and apologized, and could've possibly saved it. There would be a tempest in a teapot, but it would blow over by the time Season 3 hit Disney+. However, given the nature of her statements when she was picked up by The Daily Wire, she might have refused that.
They gave her several chances but she just couldn't help herself.
Frankly, I don't think she was all that integral to the show. She was just a side character that popped up every now and then to be a badass, and that's all there was to her. Ted Cruz went onto make it seem like she was the only badass woman in the franchise, but seems to forget the other badass women in the show like Katee Sackhoff (who's a MUCH better actress than Carano). Apparently Leia wasn't a badass woman, news to me. Even though I didn't care much for Padme, her arc in THE PHANTOM MENACE is actually pretty solid in that she's a queen that decides to rescue her people without the help of the Republic. The Jedi were helpful for sure, but she did a ton of the legwork storming in her own palace to reclaim her throne.
Meanwhile, Carano is a pretty good sharpshooter and can fight well. I'm sure there's plenty others.
Thebestoftherest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:39 pm
Plus I think this need to be said, it was about money. She threaten to hurt the purses of those above them and didn't realize it.
Pretty much and I don't think all the "boycotts" that sprung from this is going to affect them in any significant way. At least not close to how the pandemic hurt them.
I don't know much about the "trans joke" to make an opinion so I gave her the benefit of the doubt but the anti-mask nonsense, supporting the Capitol "riots" (she didn't say that but she liked tweets that support it) and the recent comparison to Jewish victims of Nazi is hard for me to defend.
Also interesting that the Daily Wire (I heard Shapiro personally hired her) hired Carano, if memory serves me correct Ben Shapiro made a statement recently saying "women aren't tough enough to be spies, soldiers...etc" and here he is hiring an actress who's biggest acting role was playing a tough female soldier. Why let a little thing like hypocrisy get in the way of "owning the libs"?
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 pm
It leaves everybody's worlds facing each other much more intimately, which lead to the growing divide of secular conservatives and equality of outcome advocates for respective reasons of crude democratic positioning.
I literally don't know what groups you're talking about because secular conservatives are basically nonexistent in the US die to how heavily American Conseratism is tied to white evangelical churches. Also is "equality of outcome advocates" supposed to be code for communists? Because most communists these days will just tell you that they are communists and most progressive liberals are pushing for reducing the opportunity gap, but actually closing it isn't actually possible under capitalism as the children of the rich can always just buy more opportunities and the children of the poor may never get them at all.
I'm just talking about social media and how people got absorbed to the left or right. Secular conservative more refers to the gamergaters or peppes who don't really fit in with the young republicans but more or less eventually find representation in Trump, and are basically just fighting to keep things how they like it more than operating on a political ideology.
The equality of outcome advocates can refer to communists, but it's more practically a catch all term for people that find discrepancies in social statistics and attribute them to systems of marginalization and oppression.
These are more or less the representative faces that the newer generations spawned and to which political circuiting more or less revolves around the opposition between.
I mean you're basically comparing people that went on a massive sexist campaign of harassing women to people that are noticing that there is a vast inequality in our society. And I say this as someone who was pro-gamergate at its height.
Believing that there is a vast conspiracy that social progressive control despite so much money and power being the hands of social conservatives and believing that systemic racism exists are not equivalent things. Especially because there is evidence for the latter and not the former, like the fact that if you have to otherwise identical resumes, but one has a name associated with white Americans and the other has one associated with black Americans (such as a french first name) the former is significantly more likely to get a call bakc.
I knew Mr. Cruz was a tool the second he ever first spoke. As to Ms. Carano, I've said before, Grogu gone, the Luke cameo is done with, so I wonder what new gimmick they're going to come up with to try and keep people around.
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 pm
It leaves everybody's worlds facing each other much more intimately, which lead to the growing divide of secular conservatives and equality of outcome advocates for respective reasons of crude democratic positioning.
I literally don't know what groups you're talking about because secular conservatives are basically nonexistent in the US die to how heavily American Conseratism is tied to white evangelical churches. Also is "equality of outcome advocates" supposed to be code for communists? Because most communists these days will just tell you that they are communists and most progressive liberals are pushing for reducing the opportunity gap, but actually closing it isn't actually possible under capitalism as the children of the rich can always just buy more opportunities and the children of the poor may never get them at all.
I'm just talking about social media and how people got absorbed to the left or right. Secular conservative more refers to the gamergaters or peppes who don't really fit in with the young republicans but more or less eventually find representation in Trump, and are basically just fighting to keep things how they like it more than operating on a political ideology.
The equality of outcome advocates can refer to communists, but it's more practically a catch all term for people that find discrepancies in social statistics and attribute them to systems of marginalization and oppression.
These are more or less the representative faces that the newer generations spawned and to which political circuiting more or less revolves around the opposition between.
I mean you're basically comparing people that went on a massive sexist campaign of harassing women to people that are noticing that there is a vast inequality in our society. And I say this as someone who was pro-gamergate at its height.
Believing that there is a vast conspiracy that social progressive control despite so much money and power being the hands of social conservatives and believing that systemic racism exists are not equivalent things. Especially because there is evidence for the latter and not the former, like the fact that if you have to otherwise identical resumes, but one has a name associated with white Americans and the other has one associated with black Americans (such as a french first name) the former is significantly more likely to get a call bakc.
Captain Crimson wrote: ↑Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:53 am
I knew Mr. Cruz was a tool the second he ever first spoke. As to Ms. Carano, I've said before, Grogu gone, the Luke cameo is done with, so I wonder what new gimmick they're going to come up with to try and keep people around.
I think the Black saber might be enough for a few episode atleast.
