President Neelix self-identifies as a Nationalist

[TGLS]

Isn't Zionism a form of nationalism? I know there are some anti-Zionist Jews, but I think they're in the minority.

Well, to be fair, Jews who aren't in favour of Israel aren't necessarily against Israel either. Nationalism's a broad spectrum.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Oh MAN. Yikes.

Um, please, please do not assume that Jewish people are Zionists by default. There's a lot of trouble with that, even in the most progressive areas. >.o https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/chicago ... -1.5488238

[Yukaphile]

Yeah, don't make broad generalizations for huge groups. That same attitude calls the 40,000,000 women and girls in Nazi Germany collectively guilty "criminals."

[Darth Wedgius]

Isn't Zionism a form of nationalism? I know there are some anti-Zionist Jews, but I think they're in the minority.

Well, to be fair, Jews who aren't in favour of Israel aren't necessarily against Israel either. Nationalism's a broad spectrum.

Fair point!

[Darth Wedgius]

Oh MAN. Yikes.

Um, please, please do not assume that Jewish people are Zionists by default. There's a lot of trouble with that, even in the most progressive areas. >.o https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/chicago ... -1.5488238

I simply assumed that more Jews are Zionists (in favor of the existence of Israel as a state that is generally Jewish) than not.

[Worffan101]

Isn't Zionism a form of nationalism? I know there are some anti-Zionist Jews, but I think they're in the minority.

1. Yes, technically, but the term "Nationalist" currently has an extremely negative connotation in the American Jewish community and in the Americna popular consciousness as a whole thanks to the nutjob Nazi who shot up the synagogue identifying as one and accusing Twitler of not being one.

2. It varies? Many Reform Jews are either against the heinous crimes of the Israeli state or are kind of guilty about the whole "Israel literally only exists because Jewish militias ethnically-cleansed and murdered lots of Palestinians" thing. Some ultra-Orthodox Jews of a particular sect have a religious objection to Israel, the details of which I'm unfamiliar with. I think that out of the overall Jewish population, anti-Zionism might be in the minority, but in America I think it's the majority.

[Karha of Honor]

I'd prefer being a humanist. It's all stupid. We're all human beings and should look at the things that make us the same.

Humans suck. That is why the Founders wanted gun rights and free speech rights among many other things.

You would find certain cultures straight up alien.

[Yukaphile]

Not arguing that. But we can do better with enough time to evolve, social reforms, and improvements in technology. I do believe that. I just won't live to see it, and that... infuriates me. And no. The Founding Fathers weren't pro-gun at all. Not in the way you think today. They wanted the local militias to have the right to grab their muskets to defend their homes at a minute's notice, hence "minutemen." If they knew how far guns had advanced today, they'd have worded their laws better to adjust for those technological shifts, believe me. Look at this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CDtSHAmoFg

OMG... only because of the government. And how their parents and education raised them. They're not aliens. They're human beings, who had all the same potential we had.

[Madner Kami]

Yeah, don't make broad generalizations for huge groups. That same attitude calls the 40,000,000 women and girls in Nazi Germany collectively guilty "criminals."

What about the 40m german men you conviniently omitted from your post? Or the soviets?

[Yukaphile]

Same applies to them. Only keep harping on that because it wasn't the men who suffered mass unwanted sexual contact. Do you mean the civilian populations back home and not the actual army? Because the army was undisciplined thugs. Cavemen. Those back home, though, the 100,000,000 or 300,000,000 or so, yeah. Can't judge them either. I'll stay consistent on that. That's two million out of five or eleven million depending on your numbers vs. 80,000,000 and 100,000,000 or 300,000,000.