She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

[Yukaphile]

Early nineties Japanese animation was far ahead of its time. Like Yu Yu Hakusho.

[clearspira]

Sure, the animation is often choppy by todays standards, but these people universally looked and acted like humans and their plotlines were frequently dark and surprisingly adult. I get none of that from today's cartoons. They are made for children to such a level that as far as I am concerned we have regressed back to the days of the Hair Bear Bunch and Bugs Bunny. You can be any age and enjoy Justice League Unlimited, but I refuse to say the same thing thing about most cartoons today.

Dost thou fuck with me, sir?

Have you eaten of the insane root, and/or snorted it off somebody's ass cheek?

We are in a GLORY age of cartoon writing, character development, and nuance.

She-Ra, the original, by contrast, was a hastily-slapped together cash-grab of pussy-puking idiocy with a script written at 3AM by somebody very hung over who was fearing for his life, and it was in GOOD COMPANY. Look at the pilot episode and try not to escape by hitting your own computer with a soup spoon. I monkey-flipping DARE you.

Anyone who says cartoons were great then and suck now has been huffing paint thinner fumes and nostalgia in equal measure.

The glory age? Nah mate. Nah.

And as for the hate ''only'' being because of attitude towards SJWs, I call bullshit. And I call bullshit because I have spent the last year as someone who vocally hates Rey from Star Wars because she is a Mary Sue, and the response is me being called a Manbaby for it because I ''hate women'' or I ''hate the SJWs.'' I was vocal in my hate of Ghostbusters because i hate no-script, improvised comedy, and the response is me being called a sexist who hates women. I am vocal in my hatred of STD because of the massive lore breaks, and the response is the idea that I hate strong black women.
I see the exact same thing here. I nice simple way to deflect all criticism from your product.

[Starbug]

That looks pretty cool! I'll have to give it a watch when it comes out.

Depending on where you are in the world, it should be out now. I'm on episode 11 of 13.

That was quick. What site are they on? The official channel only seems to have teasers, which is... weird.

It's on Netflix right now: probably filter down to broadcast TV in a year or so.

They've confirmed that there's 56 episodes in the can already, split into four lots of thirteen. And that's just "Season 1".

And the original series was just a cheap attempt to sell action figures to little girls, not understanding that those who might have been interested already had Teela to identify with.

[Deledrius]

It's on Netflix right now: probably filter down to broadcast TV in a year or so.

Awesome, thanks!

[MissKittyFantastico]

And the original series was just a cheap attempt to sell action figures to little girls, not understanding that those who might have been interested already had Teela to identify with.

Okay I'm not gonna try to defend the original's many shortcomings, but I feel that's harsher than it deserves - there was plenty of genuine merit in those half-hour toy commercials, He-Man and She-Ra both.

Anyway, just watched the first two episodes, and man am I delighted. I admit I was a bit uncertain of the new look when the first static art came out, but honestly seeing them in motion in the trailer was enough to get my hopes back up, and now I'm totally on board (and I think I remember seeing a listing for a two-pack of She-Ra and Catra figures, and I've got just the spot for them on my shelf next to the MOTUC Princess of Power figures and the 80s MOC She-Ra - so how's that for 'fans of the original don't like the new one', ha).

[Starbug]

And the original series was just a cheap attempt to sell action figures to little girls, not understanding that those who might have been interested already had Teela to identify with.

Okay I'm not gonna try to defend the original's many shortcomings, but I feel that's harsher than it deserves - there was plenty of genuine merit in those half-hour toy commercials, He-Man and She-Ra both.

The people wore directly on the show were giving it 110% (see the By The Power Of Greyskull documentry), but they were hamstringed by a lack of budget forcing them to reuse animation far too much.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Clearspira,

1. Nobody cared about her until this came out. Any guys who might have been "nostalgic" for it were either busy complaining that He-Man was much better and She-Ra was stupid, or lying about the fact they watched Care Bears. That leads into
2. The only reason you come in with this solidarity about people who have had things ruined is because of your own tendency to fume at SJWs ruining your favorite properties, which really undercuts your "I'm not just upset because of the SJWs" argument, and
3. Even if we toss out the first two arguments, can you really dismiss the age of Avatar the Last Airbender, Gravity Falls, Over the Garden Wall and the like as somehow inferior to the animated art of the past, ESPECIALLY in terms of character development? That's a reach that Mr Fantastic would be proud of.

[Rocketboy1313]

And as for the hate ''only'' being because of attitude towards SJWs, I call bullshit. And I call bullshit because I have spent the last year as someone who vocally hates Rey from Star Wars because she is a Mary Sue, and the response is me being called a Manbaby for it because I ''hate women'' or I ''hate the SJWs.'' I was vocal in my hate of Ghostbusters because i hate no-script, improvised comedy, and the response is me being called a sexist who hates women. I am vocal in my hatred of STD because of the massive lore breaks, and the response is the idea that I hate strong black women.
I see the exact same thing here. I nice simple way to deflect all criticism from your product.

You do realize that listing off a bunch of things you hate, and that you have been called various flavor of sexist... Does not in anyway make you look better right?

Like, if someone says you are sexist, and then you call bullshit by saying, "I get called sexist all the time" that is not a refutation of the point.

Have you considered they are calling you sexist because you are sexist, and your criticisms of media is just where the trait is most noticeable to others?

[Yukaphile]

Tbf, I dislike the same things, and for the same reasons. Yet I'm also left wing while I think clearspira is right wing, for whatever that's worth.

And I'm not against a team of female Ghostbusters on principle. I'm not against the new lead of Star Wars being female to invert traditional gender roles. I just think modern Hollywood sucks. Give me the classics any day, for as much as they had gender and racial flaws that we're slowly dealing with in today's world.

[Admiral X]

I watched both He-Man and She-Ra as a kid, but honestly remember almost nothing about either show. I was more of a G.I. Joe and Transformers fan at that age.