What did you think of Solo's surprise ending?

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Surprise? No, it was predictable. But at this point being predictable doesn't necessarily mean bad. This is a post TvTropes world, and you can see a lot of things coming in a prequel in the first place.

Of the two 'side stories', Solo had a more consistent tone, better pacing, and despite its flaws had fewer than Rogue One. I'll gladly take a couple annoying characters over the cinematic equivalent of a rail shooter.

So it's the weekend, we're on page two of this thread. Spoilers will now commence.

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Has anyone interested in this thread actually not seen Solo yet?
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What would it being the weeknd have to do with anything lol.

Shooter on rails is an interesting way to describe R1 to kinda take it apart, but I didn't think that was really that detrimental. Just because everybody knows what the principal mission is going to be, and by the time the ending happens I just felt like Spock saying it is logical for the film to end the way it did.

Also kinda nice about R1 was that it was special just because it's Star Wars despite it being a standalone movie, but Solo kinda made the standalone movies into an embargo status where we can't really take them that seriously anymore lest they will take down the franchise with them as they churn out a new movie every year.
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Wait, what surprise ending? You mean all the double- and triple-crossing that suddenly piled up at the end?

I thought for sure the rebel leader was going to be Tobias and Val's kid or something, but then there was no connection and for some reason the bad guys were just suddenly good guys.
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The surprise was kind of unnecessary to me because it kind of clashed with the heist/old school western feel that the movie was going for.
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Deledrius wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 pm Wait, what surprise ending? You mean all the double- and triple-crossing that suddenly piled up at the end?

I thought for sure the rebel leader was going to be Tobias and Val's kid or something, but then there was no connection and for some reason the bad guys were just suddenly good guys.
No just the cameo that at least I didn't expect lol.
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It was horrable, the lowest form of hack writing and silly fan service.

Bad enough the movie has..sigh..the triple cross.

Bad enough Han, single handedly, saved the galaxy by giving them the cash to do ''you know what".

But when you bring back a lame, pointless charater...for no reason....just to have them go ''haha I'm not dead", is horrable. It's worse as he becomes...er...a crime lord? Sure, why take over the galaxy when you can do crime?

You can tell bad writing by things like: A: The silly need to explain everything(like how did the Rebels, er, buy all them X-wings?) and B: Making EVERY SINGLE ''popular" character demigods that can do ''anything" and C: Saddly connecting EVERYTHING to EVERYTHING as if the whole of Star Wars takes place in one square mile of space.
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Oh dammit, I'm going to tell it since there is no way to really talk about without naming the character. No, I didn't expect Maul to appear at the end of the movie. Was I excited to see him? Not really, but it's a nice connexion between Clone Wars and Rebels. In Clone Wars, we learn that Darth Maul (now just Maul since he's no longer Darth Sidious' apprentice) survived his battle against Obi Wan. His main goal is revenge. With his "brother" Savage Oppress, he manages to take over Mandalore by subjugating the Pikes, Black Sun, some Hutts (?) and allying with Pre Vizsla's Death Watch, a rebellious Mandalorian militia. By killing Vizsla in a duel, Maul becomes the ruler of Mandalore. That's when Darth Sidious intervenes... The last time we saw Maul in Clone Wars, he was begging Palpatine for mercy, and Palpatine reassured him that he has use for him (maniacal cackling). When we see him again in Rebels, he's alone and his hideout is in a shack on Dathomir... What happened? Well, we learn in Solo that he was a crime lord, which is logical, because his connexions to different crime syndicates, like the Pikes that we see in Solo, were well established in Clone Wars. We will probably learn what happened on Mandalore in the Mandalorian ark during the 7th season of Clone Wars. Unfortunately, those who didn't watch Clone Wars and Rebels didn't know that. Therefore, to them Maul's appearance in the end of Solo didn't make much sense.

I never embarked on the Darth Maul bandwagon following The Phantom Menace. He was pretty much the prequel's Boba Fett. However, I must admit that when you add up his appearences in movies and TV shows, this "irrelevent character", this "superfluous villain" has quite an endearing storyline...

As for Solo as a whole, I got what I was expecting: a light-hearted flick with lots of actions and sillyness. Hudson Hawk meets Sergio Leone in Star Wars universe. Nothing grandiose, without the gravitas that the fight between the Light and Dark Sides bring to the main storyline, but still entertaining. Alden Ehrenreich was a decent Solo and Donald Glover nailed it as Lando Calrissian. The ending was pointing towards a sequel, but I doubt we will ever have that now. Solo's main flaw was that they released it too soon after The Last Jedi. They should have waited for Christmas, at least.
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Actarus wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:52 am Oh dammit, I'm going to tell it since there is no way to really talk about without naming the character.
Well yeah but that was just kinda the fun of the idea.
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Y'know, it doesn't help that Maul is a non-character. Oh, people like him because he has a cool red face and a double lightsaber, but plot wise he did nothing but kill Qui Gon - and THAT only happened because the Jedi (upon visiting their headquarters on their capital world that had a whole room of Jedi Masters just sitting on their ass doing nothing lets remember) decided that ''no, bringing reinforcements against the Trade Federation Army and the Sith Lord we suspect to be here is a pussy idea. Lets bring the little kid along instead of leaving him in the temple with all the other kids too, that'll be safe.''

This sort of shitty plotting is why people hate the Prequels.
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clearspira wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:34 am Y'know, it doesn't help that Maul is a non-character. Oh, people like him because he has a cool red face and a double lightsaber, but plot wise he did nothing but kill Qui Gon - and THAT only happened because the Jedi (upon visiting their headquarters on their capital world that had a whole room of Jedi Masters just sitting on their ass doing nothing lets remember) decided that ''no, bringing reinforcements against the Trade Federation Army and the Sith Lord we suspect to be here is a pussy idea. Lets bring the little kid along instead of leaving him in the temple with all the other kids too, that'll be safe.''

This sort of shitty plotting is why people hate the Prequels.
He did his job really well unlike other characters.

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