Nick Cannon Goes on a Racist Rant

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:32 pm
why is racism against whites different from racism against blacks? how can they be treated equally if it's always insisted their they be treated differently?
For starters, are you trying to talk about policy consisting of discriminatory practice, or are you talking about racism, as an ism or societal system? They are two different answers that still arrive to the same point eventually.
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Affirmative Action's a little more than superficial, granted. re: g-man
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:36 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:32 pm
why is racism against whites different from racism against blacks? how can they be treated equally if it's always insisted their they be treated differently?
For starters, are you trying to talk about policy consisting of discriminatory practice, or are you talking about racism, as an ism or societal system? They are two different answers that still arrive to the same point eventually.
the societal system. I am for treating people equally but how can we do that if we also have to treat them differently?
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:49 pm the societal system. I am for treating people equally but how can we do that if we also have to treat them differently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3wwvefJVUA


Back on topic-
The thing to understand is that Nick Cannon is that he's most likely going for a Black Hebrew Israelite statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites , so in this context he should be understood as saying "Black people are the REAL Jews and all these white Jews are colonizers!" or to that effect. He's not really talking about both white and Jewish people in his rant, but supposing that all white Jews are pretenders who should be condemned.

So y'know, it's anti-Semitic as fuck and he can fuck off into the sea.
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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:49 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:36 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:32 pm
why is racism against whites different from racism against blacks? how can they be treated equally if it's always insisted their they be treated differently?
For starters, are you trying to talk about policy consisting of discriminatory practice, or are you talking about racism, as an ism or societal system? They are two different answers that still arrive to the same point eventually.
the societal system. I am for treating people equally but how can we do that if we also have to treat them differently?
Because in the context of a power vacuum, when you're discussing the complementary dynamic of the two cultures in question, it's understood even by conventional historical economic principles that one side was exploited and disenfranchised for hundreds of years. And that's inseparable from the American institution, as slavery was both sanctioned by law and a crucial economic crutch so much that a war was fought on that fundamental.

That's the appropriate response to your question because that's what racism is specifically. It's not invalid to talk about racism in that context, and not in the context of simply "treating people unequally based on the color of their skin." The latter part is a different conversation, while racism as an 'ism or societal system concept starts with that historical fact above when you're talking about it as an American phenomenon.
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Took the man long enough. nick no has real stability when it comes to social-identity, political however is another story. But overall for his 'identity' during this time of crisis, he snaps back like any other rubber band that's stretched with social-aggression, you only will get hurt from the actions you do.

If the man was socially-passive though, he would be considered a prophet or a saint.

Yet we all know what will lead this social-invasion into something more dark.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:22 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:49 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:36 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:32 pm
why is racism against whites different from racism against blacks? how can they be treated equally if it's always insisted their they be treated differently?
For starters, are you trying to talk about policy consisting of discriminatory practice, or are you talking about racism, as an ism or societal system? They are two different answers that still arrive to the same point eventually.
the societal system. I am for treating people equally but how can we do that if we also have to treat them differently?
Because in the context of a power vacuum, when you're discussing the complementary dynamic of the two cultures in question, it's understood even by conventional historical economic principles that one side was exploited and disenfranchised for hundreds of years. And that's inseparable from the American institution, as slavery was both sanctioned by law and a crucial economic crutch so much that a war was fought on that fundamental.

That's the appropriate response to your question because that's what racism is specifically. It's not invalid to talk about racism in that context, and not in the context of simply "treating people unequally based on the color of their skin." The latter part is a different conversation, while racism as an 'ism or societal system concept starts with that historical fact above when you're talking about it as an American phenomenon.
okay, I was confused, I was talking about racism as just the ism.
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also, I do realize there are problems in this country and am not against admitting that there may be some problems that have to be addressed with the police and society as a whole, I am simply against the generalizing and in my view, dehumanizing terms like "white privilege" and "All Cops Are Bastards" and the attitudes that go with them.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:40 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:59 pm I think I keep commenting on news threads here because some part of me is worried I am in the wrong on these things but it doesn't seem like anyone is gonna convince me or vice versa either way because I ultimately come back to my individualistic worldview.
Yes and your worldview is the problem.
You are of the opinion that we shouldn't treat people as individuals? Or is that on a case by case basis, for example, treat all white people the same, but not all muslims?
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CmdrKing wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:35 pm
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:49 pm the societal system. I am for treating people equally but how can we do that if we also have to treat them differently?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3wwvefJVUA


Back on topic-
The thing to understand is that Nick Cannon is that he's most likely going for a Black Hebrew Israelite statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites , so in this context he should be understood as saying "Black people are the REAL Jews and all these white Jews are colonizers!" or to that effect. He's not really talking about both white and Jewish people in his rant, but supposing that all white Jews are pretenders who should be condemned.

So y'know, it's anti-Semitic as fuck and he can fuck off into the sea.
He's also anti-white. Oh, right, that part is OK with you. How did I forget? :lol:
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