Cleveland Indians changing name

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Vikings and Pirates, however, are professions, not sovereign nation-states or ethnic groups.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:18 am Vikings and Pirates, however, are professions, not sovereign nation-states or ethnic groups.
I dunno about Vikings:
Vikings were the seafaring Norse people from southern Scandinavia (present-day Denmark, Norway and Sweden) ... the term 'Viking' also commonly includes the inhabitants of the Norse homelands.
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That one's a lot hazier though. It more properly refers to the guys who did the raiding and trading, and as groupings of people it's pretty nebulous.
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All I know is that if I went around calling Scandinavian people "Viking" for no reason, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't pick up on it immediately, but if I went around calling Native Americans "Chief" in the same way, they'd probably pick up on it a lot faster.

Then again, there are sports teams with more problematic names and logos than Kansas City.
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"The name "Indians" originated from a request by club owner Charles Somers to baseball writers to choose a new name to replace "Cleveland Naps" following the departure of Nap Lajoie after the 1914 season. It was a revival of the nickname that fans gave to the Cleveland Spiders while Louis Sockalexis, a Native American, was playing for the team."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Indians

The name was in honor of an early Native American baseball star. Bravo for for erasing that history.
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Yeah, it's erased, which is why you couldn't find the information anywhere now that they changed the name. u_u So sad
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