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Re: Elon's Twitter

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 11:39 pm It's interesting how game prices have been sticky in spite of inflation for the past 30 years. Given the prevalence of gamers among millennials and onward, it seems the market just stayed consistent and got heavy as time went on.
Some publishers (2K being a big one) have been spitballing a hike to $70. Most folks just aren't biting, usually because these games ALSO tend to be stuffed with pay-to-win microtransactions. "Why are they hiking the entrance fee for the pachinko parlor?" is most people's takeaway.
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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Madner Kami wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 am The problem with the internet in general is that we are all moochers. We want everything for free and often actively prevent these websites from making money by adblocking or chuckling at the idea of donating or buying a subscription.

Its like video games. People spend £60 on a game and think that entitles them to years of free play, updates, new content and developer support. When in reality, you've actually contributed almost nothing to the upkeep of that game. The ''whales'' meanwhile, the ones buying the loot boxes and the battle passes etc. are single-handedly keeping that game afloat once it falls out of the sales charts.

The fact that you are putting in hundreds, nay thousands of hours, into something FOR FREE and expecting something back FOR FREE makes you borderline worthless to these companies. You are actually supporting nothing. You are just entitled.
So you're paying a monthly fee to keep playing the chess-game you purchased 50 years ago? That book over there in your shelf. When was the last time you paid for it? What do you mean you purchased it? The book had to be printed and the people who wrote and printed it, still need to live, do they not? So why are you not paying your dues? Dude, that was the single-handedly dumbest pile of words you put on this forum in quite a while.
That was the first thing I thought of; how much money do the companies make when I pay my $30 for a DVD and take it home to watch as many times as I want, I can even invite people over and they can see it without paying anyone for the privilege.
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:46 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 am The problem with the internet in general is that we are all moochers. We want everything for free and often actively prevent these websites from making money by adblocking or chuckling at the idea of donating or buying a subscription.

Its like video games. People spend £60 on a game and think that entitles them to years of free play, updates, new content and developer support. When in reality, you've actually contributed almost nothing to the upkeep of that game. The ''whales'' meanwhile, the ones buying the loot boxes and the battle passes etc. are single-handedly keeping that game afloat once it falls out of the sales charts.

The fact that you are putting in hundreds, nay thousands of hours, into something FOR FREE and expecting something back FOR FREE makes you borderline worthless to these companies. You are actually supporting nothing. You are just entitled.
So you're paying a monthly fee to keep playing the chess-game you purchased 50 years ago? That book over there in your shelf. When was the last time you paid for it? What do you mean you purchased it? The book had to be printed and the people who wrote and printed it, still need to live, do they not? So why are you not paying your dues? Dude, that was the single-handedly dumbest pile of words you put on this forum in quite a while.
That was the first thing I thought of; how much money do the companies make when I pay my $30 for a DVD and take it home to watch as many times as I want, I can even invite people over and they can see it without paying anyone for the privilege.
Not sure if you were around when FBI warnings used to be on every video tape.
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:21 pm
phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:46 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 am The problem with the internet in general is that we are all moochers. We want everything for free and often actively prevent these websites from making money by adblocking or chuckling at the idea of donating or buying a subscription.

Its like video games. People spend £60 on a game and think that entitles them to years of free play, updates, new content and developer support. When in reality, you've actually contributed almost nothing to the upkeep of that game. The ''whales'' meanwhile, the ones buying the loot boxes and the battle passes etc. are single-handedly keeping that game afloat once it falls out of the sales charts.

The fact that you are putting in hundreds, nay thousands of hours, into something FOR FREE and expecting something back FOR FREE makes you borderline worthless to these companies. You are actually supporting nothing. You are just entitled.
So you're paying a monthly fee to keep playing the chess-game you purchased 50 years ago? That book over there in your shelf. When was the last time you paid for it? What do you mean you purchased it? The book had to be printed and the people who wrote and printed it, still need to live, do they not? So why are you not paying your dues? Dude, that was the single-handedly dumbest pile of words you put on this forum in quite a while.
That was the first thing I thought of; how much money do the companies make when I pay my $30 for a DVD and take it home to watch as many times as I want, I can even invite people over and they can see it without paying anyone for the privilege.
Not sure if you were around when FBI warnings used to be on every video tape.
I remember those, but you can't sue someone for letting a friend borrow something they bought, or are you going to sue a public library because people can check out DVD's now?
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:45 pm I remember those, but you can't sue someone for letting a friend borrow something they bought, or are you going to sue a public library because people can check out DVD's now?
It's all centric to commercial use, not personal exposure.

For instance, you're allowed to resell your licensed copy. That's pretty much always been the case. You can sell it for 1,000,000 times its value if the market allows. If you were able to con someone out of it, you might have legal issues, but it would not entail licensed infringement violating the maker's intellectual property.

You're specifically not allowed to make a business out of the specifically licensed copy. It's painfully clear and salient from the outset of this sentence, but this was less of a problem before the internet. If you were buying VHS tapes and bootlegging Ninja Turtles 3, it would be illegal and you would be liable, but the physical investment is considered too great to warrant companies being able to get the racketeering arm of government to intercede. Let pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered. Since data is freely shared 0-hour by today's standards, there [would be] no real way to track if someone is setting up shop with your digital shit.
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:45 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:21 pm
phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:46 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 am The problem with the internet in general is that we are all moochers. We want everything for free and often actively prevent these websites from making money by adblocking or chuckling at the idea of donating or buying a subscription.

Its like video games. People spend £60 on a game and think that entitles them to years of free play, updates, new content and developer support. When in reality, you've actually contributed almost nothing to the upkeep of that game. The ''whales'' meanwhile, the ones buying the loot boxes and the battle passes etc. are single-handedly keeping that game afloat once it falls out of the sales charts.

The fact that you are putting in hundreds, nay thousands of hours, into something FOR FREE and expecting something back FOR FREE makes you borderline worthless to these companies. You are actually supporting nothing. You are just entitled.
So you're paying a monthly fee to keep playing the chess-game you purchased 50 years ago? That book over there in your shelf. When was the last time you paid for it? What do you mean you purchased it? The book had to be printed and the people who wrote and printed it, still need to live, do they not? So why are you not paying your dues? Dude, that was the single-handedly dumbest pile of words you put on this forum in quite a while.
That was the first thing I thought of; how much money do the companies make when I pay my $30 for a DVD and take it home to watch as many times as I want, I can even invite people over and they can see it without paying anyone for the privilege.
Not sure if you were around when FBI warnings used to be on every video tape.
I remember those, but you can't sue someone for letting a friend borrow something they bought, or are you going to sue a public library because people can check out DVD's now?
The library buys a DVD with a license to lend it out.
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Re: Elon's Twitter

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TGLS wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:31 pm
phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:45 pm
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:21 pm
phantom000 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:46 am
Madner Kami wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:01 am The problem with the internet in general is that we are all moochers. We want everything for free and often actively prevent these websites from making money by adblocking or chuckling at the idea of donating or buying a subscription.

Its like video games. People spend £60 on a game and think that entitles them to years of free play, updates, new content and developer support. When in reality, you've actually contributed almost nothing to the upkeep of that game. The ''whales'' meanwhile, the ones buying the loot boxes and the battle passes etc. are single-handedly keeping that game afloat once it falls out of the sales charts.

The fact that you are putting in hundreds, nay thousands of hours, into something FOR FREE and expecting something back FOR FREE makes you borderline worthless to these companies. You are actually supporting nothing. You are just entitled.
So you're paying a monthly fee to keep playing the chess-game you purchased 50 years ago? That book over there in your shelf. When was the last time you paid for it? What do you mean you purchased it? The book had to be printed and the people who wrote and printed it, still need to live, do they not? So why are you not paying your dues? Dude, that was the single-handedly dumbest pile of words you put on this forum in quite a while.
That was the first thing I thought of; how much money do the companies make when I pay my $30 for a DVD and take it home to watch as many times as I want, I can even invite people over and they can see it without paying anyone for the privilege.
Not sure if you were around when FBI warnings used to be on every video tape.
I remember those, but you can't sue someone for letting a friend borrow something they bought, or are you going to sue a public library because people can check out DVD's now?
The library buys a DVD with a license to lend it out.
They are pretty much the 007 of the media distribution world.
..What mirror universe?
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