“All lives matter” protesters drop the mask

[GreyICE]

Of course, I'll call out all those behaviors, because I'm not a bigot. GreyICE and Fuzzy Necromancer probably won't call out all those behaviors. Shockingly enough.

I call out behaviors. Didn't you read in your white supremacist magazine - your pals that you like reading the work of so much are the ones doing all the killing.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3

Of course you might not find out about this reading "Mankind Quarterly", the magazine for white supremacists that you like to link to.

[Antiboyscout]

I have to ask again why I don't here people on this forum or on places like YouTube calling out the extremists on the left as well like the BLM members who wrote the graffiti advocating for the murder of cops.

Because it's probably the same issue that people have recognized commonly in ghettos around the US or world. You tend to have delinquent behavior in more impoverished areas, and it's more under the umbrella of disparate social conditions. It's not really a political matter, it's the nature of less well to do communities on a general level.

Also you have ongoing tensions between urban youths and police forces, especially when gangs are in the mix and infused in the culture. In the scope of social issues surrounding minorities, this is seen as another challenge their communities face.

but wasn't it adult individuals actually affiliated with Black Lives Matter calling for cops to be murdered?

Affiliation with Black Lives Matter is effectively anyone that believes there's a problem with such police departments. It's like saying that religion is bad because someone that you heard of that believes in God did something bad. It's a basic informal logic fallacy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

"Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes"

police reform?

[Antiboyscout]

Of course, I'll call out all those behaviors, because I'm not a bigot. GreyICE and Fuzzy Necromancer probably won't call out all those behaviors. Shockingly enough.

I call out behaviors. Didn't you read in your white supremacist magazine - your pals that you like reading the work of so much are the ones doing all the killing.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

On June 3, 2020, federal authorities arrested three individuals allegedly associated with the “boogaloo” movement, a loosely-organized group of extremists preparing for a civil war, for conspiring to cause violence in Las Vegas and possessing an improvised incendiary device.1 Less than a week later, law enforcement officials near Richmond, VA, arrested Harry H. Rogers, a member of the Ku Klux Klan, for driving a vehicle into peaceful protesters. Around the same time, members of a Brooklyn anarchist group urged its supporters to conduct “rebellion” against the government.2 Extremists from all sides flooded social media with disinformation, conspiracy theories, and incitements to violence in response to the protests following the death of George Floyd, swamping Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, and other platforms.3

Of course you might not find out about this reading "Mankind Quarterly", the magazine for white supremacists that you like to link to.

You say this as if it isn't plain to see that mayors and governers are providing the left wing organizations cover by giving local police stand down orders, telling local prosecutors to drop charges, and hindering any federal response to riots and property destruction.

how can half a dozen arrests compare to the thousands that march, hundreds that commit property damage, dozens that physically assault people. What cuz the mayor told the police not to arrest them it doesn't count?

How many murders took place in CHAZ while the mayor shrugged her shoulders? And we know this is a biased response because the last time a bunch of right wing activists peaceful occupied (no murders at least) government property, the response was very different wasn't it?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I have to ask again why I don't here people on this forum or on places like YouTube calling out the extremists on the left as well like the BLM members who wrote the graffiti advocating for the murder of cops.

Because it's probably the same issue that people have recognized commonly in ghettos around the US or world. You tend to have delinquent behavior in more impoverished areas, and it's more under the umbrella of disparate social conditions. It's not really a political matter, it's the nature of less well to do communities on a general level.

Also you have ongoing tensions between urban youths and police forces, especially when gangs are in the mix and infused in the culture. In the scope of social issues surrounding minorities, this is seen as another challenge their communities face.

but wasn't it adult individuals actually affiliated with Black Lives Matter calling for cops to be murdered?

Affiliation with Black Lives Matter is effectively anyone that believes there's a problem with such police departments. It's like saying that religion is bad because someone that you heard of that believes in God did something bad. It's a basic informal logic fallacy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

"Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes"

police reform?

I talk about how the nature of this movement is inclusive to the entire black population. It's predominantly decentralized and springs up with less guidelines than a franchise restaurant. That's problematic, I'll concede. As GreyICE was saying, organization in the 60's led to FBI targeting. I can't say how much of that resonates in today's movement's schedule, but it's probably a factor.

Really though, pointing to "unidentified man"'s radical claim doesn't much bearing on a group whose goals are wholly comprised at addressing police brutality on behalf of recognized protected classes.

[Antiboyscout]

I have to ask again why I don't here people on this forum or on places like YouTube calling out the extremists on the left as well like the BLM members who wrote the graffiti advocating for the murder of cops.

Because it's probably the same issue that people have recognized commonly in ghettos around the US or world. You tend to have delinquent behavior in more impoverished areas, and it's more under the umbrella of disparate social conditions. It's not really a political matter, it's the nature of less well to do communities on a general level.

Also you have ongoing tensions between urban youths and police forces, especially when gangs are in the mix and infused in the culture. In the scope of social issues surrounding minorities, this is seen as another challenge their communities face.

but wasn't it adult individuals actually affiliated with Black Lives Matter calling for cops to be murdered?

Affiliation with Black Lives Matter is effectively anyone that believes there's a problem with such police departments. It's like saying that religion is bad because someone that you heard of that believes in God did something bad. It's a basic informal logic fallacy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

"Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes"

police reform?

I talk about how the nature of this movement is inclusive to the entire black population. It's predominantly decentralized and springs up with less guidelines than a franchise restaurant. That's problematic, I'll concede. As GreyICE was saying, organization in the 60's led to FBI targeting. I can't say how much of that resonates in today's movement's schedule, but it's probably a factor.

Really though, pointing to "unidentified man"'s radical claim doesn't much bearing on a group whose goals are wholly comprised at addressing police brutality on behalf of recognized protected classes.

A BLM organizer and all the protesters that followed him is not "random unidentified man"

and "reparations" is part of the BLM platform

[GreyICE]

I talk about how the nature of this movement is inclusive to the entire black population. It's predominantly decentralized and springs up with less guidelines than a franchise restaurant. That's problematic, I'll concede. As GreyICE was saying, organization in the 60's led to FBI targeting. I can't say how much of that resonates in today's movement's schedule, but it's probably a factor.

Really though, pointing to "unidentified man"'s radical claim doesn't much bearing on a group whose goals are wholly comprised at addressing police brutality on behalf of recognized protected classes.

1960s? It hardly ended in the 60s. Every time FBI files are released, we find out the FBI was targeting anyone they thought might be a black leader: https://www.masslive.com/entertainment/2011/04/recently_released_fbi_file_sug.html

It "ended" only in that the FBI declassifies files after a certain length of time, so you only find out about it on a time delay. It's perpeptually "thirty years in the past" even though there's plenty of evidence of them doing the same thing today.


The FBI Won’t Hand Over Its Surveillance Records on ‘Black Identity Extremists,’ so We’re Suing
https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/race-and-criminal-justice/fbi-wont-hand-over-its-surveillance-records-black

FBI Tracked an Activist Involved With Black Lives Matter as They Traveled Across the U.S., Documents Show
Documents obtained by The Intercept indicate that the FBI surveilled Black Lives Matter activists — and that the Department of Homeland Security drafted a mysterious “race paper.”
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/19/black-lives-matter-fbi-surveillance/

The FBI Targets a New Generation of Black Activists
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/fbi-targets-new-generation-black-activists

1960? This didn't stop happening when MLK was shot. This happens today, in 2020. This has never stopped happening. This has never been paused. The FBI has never stopped targeting black activists.

This is generational at this point. The FBI wants to make very sure another MLK doesn't happen.

[Antiboyscout]

every right wing militia is under FBI surveillance

It's not cuz their black

and considering the property damage and literal used of incendiary and explosive devices used during BLM protests it seems prudent.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I have to ask again why I don't here people on this forum or on places like YouTube calling out the extremists on the left as well like the BLM members who wrote the graffiti advocating for the murder of cops.

Because it's probably the same issue that people have recognized commonly in ghettos around the US or world. You tend to have delinquent behavior in more impoverished areas, and it's more under the umbrella of disparate social conditions. It's not really a political matter, it's the nature of less well to do communities on a general level.

Also you have ongoing tensions between urban youths and police forces, especially when gangs are in the mix and infused in the culture. In the scope of social issues surrounding minorities, this is seen as another challenge their communities face.

but wasn't it adult individuals actually affiliated with Black Lives Matter calling for cops to be murdered?

Affiliation with Black Lives Matter is effectively anyone that believes there's a problem with such police departments. It's like saying that religion is bad because someone that you heard of that believes in God did something bad. It's a basic informal logic fallacy.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/14/seattle-blm-protesters-demand-white-people-give-up-their-homes/

"Seattle BLM protesters demand white people ‘give up’ their homes"

police reform?

I talk about how the nature of this movement is inclusive to the entire black population. It's predominantly decentralized and springs up with less guidelines than a franchise restaurant. That's problematic, I'll concede. As GreyICE was saying, organization in the 60's led to FBI targeting. I can't say how much of that resonates in today's movement's schedule, but it's probably a factor.

Really though, pointing to "unidentified man"'s radical claim doesn't much bearing on a group whose goals are wholly comprised at addressing police brutality on behalf of recognized protected classes.

A BLM organizer and all the protesters that followed him is not "random unidentified man"

and "reparations" is part of the BLM platform

Nothing in there about an organizer. Literally says "unidentified man" and "another woman."

"Footage of the Wednesday demonstration posted to Twitter shows a crowd of dozens chanting “Black lives matter” before an unidentified man projects his ire toward nearby white residents — saying they are living in a historically black section of the city as another woman in the crowd yells that they should “give up” their homes, the clip shows.

“Do you know that before your white ass came here, this was all black people?” the man says. “Do you know people like you came in here and basically bought all the land from the black people for less than what it was worth, kicked them out so you could live here? Do you know that?”"

[Antiboyscout]

Nothing in there about an organizer. Literally says "unidentified man" and "another woman."

"Footage of the Wednesday demonstration posted to Twitter shows a crowd of dozens chanting “Black lives matter” before an unidentified man projects his ire toward nearby white residents — saying they are living in a historically black section of the city as another woman in the crowd yells that they should “give up” their homes, the clip shows.

“Do you know that before your white ass came here, this was all black people?” the man says. “Do you know people like you came in here and basically bought all the land from the black people for less than what it was worth, kicked them out so you could live here? Do you know that?”"

That's what a BLM organizer looks like. That's what you get for having a loose organizational structure.

Did the crowd disperse after this unhinged rant? Why were they in this residential district in the first place?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Nothing in there about an organizer. Literally says "unidentified man" and "another woman."

"Footage of the Wednesday demonstration posted to Twitter shows a crowd of dozens chanting “Black lives matter” before an unidentified man projects his ire toward nearby white residents — saying they are living in a historically black section of the city as another woman in the crowd yells that they should “give up” their homes, the clip shows.

“Do you know that before your white ass came here, this was all black people?” the man says. “Do you know people like you came in here and basically bought all the land from the black people for less than what it was worth, kicked them out so you could live here? Do you know that?”"

That's what a BLM organizer looks like. That's what you get for having a loose organizational structure.

Did the crowd disperse after this unhinged rant? Why were they in this residential district in the first place?

And what is your real concern here? That the government's just gonna listen to them and go, "yeah actually that unidentified person made a lot of sense, let's start redistributing land, kthxbi."