So Trump has Covid-19

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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:59 pm
Makeshift Python wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:52 pm You paid your taxes. That automatically makes you the better man. So honestly, keep laughing at him, because that piece of shit deserves all the derision.
I will never stop thinking this kind of mindset is heartless.
Yeah, since there are far more, tons of valid other reasons if you're really going to set this way of thinking, IMO. And with someone like Mr. 45, then yeah, you could literally find far worthier.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
I certainly cannot in good conscience begrudge you that sentiment with that summation.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer. no matter who it is, murder should never be celebrated. if I get called out for dehumanizing Hitler, why can't I call you out for this?
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:35 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer.
I don't agree. It's not healthy, sure, but it could also be relatively benign, large-scale.

Didn't that older Yukaphile user I'd got compared to exhibit, um... similar passion? Was Yukaphile a serial killer, and is Fuzzy? I can't say that I think they are. The new tribal age is bringing out raw agony in too many people. Doesn't make one a psychopathic type.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:40 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:35 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer.
I don't agree. It's not healthy, sure, but it could also be relatively benign, large-scale.

Didn't that older Yukaphile user I'd got compared to exhibit, um... similar passion? Was Yukaphile a serial killer, and is Fuzzy? I can't say that I think they are. The new tribal age is bringing out raw agony in too many people. Doesn't make one a psychopathic type.
perhaps I am going to far but if I was told to not think this way about even Hitler on another thread, what did I do differently?
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:48 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:40 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:35 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer.
I don't agree. It's not healthy, sure, but it could also be relatively benign, large-scale.

Didn't that older Yukaphile user I'd got compared to exhibit, um... similar passion? Was Yukaphile a serial killer, and is Fuzzy? I can't say that I think they are. The new tribal age is bringing out raw agony in too many people. Doesn't make one a psychopathic type.
perhaps I am going to far but if I was told to not think this way about even Hitler on another thread, what did I do differently?
I'd be lying if I said certain people, or my strawmans of them, didn't engender similar feelings in me from time to time. But those people lashing out that way are precisely why I am responsible enough not to.

Despite our headbutting, I trust Fuzzy. And I do not believe that Fuzzy Necromancer is deliberately stirring up anything past the typical symbolic gestures protesting brings.

I don't think anyone here would do that. I'd like to think you have similar responsibility.

Celebrating the death of one in the hopes it will lead to a better world is far different than taking matters into your own hands to do it all personally.
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:35 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer. no matter who it is, murder should never be celebrated. if I get called out for dehumanizing Hitler, why can't I call you out for this?
If it did, there would be a lot more serial killers. Contrary to movies tropes and detective shows, serial killers are extremely rare. There were enough people celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher to drive "Ding Dong, the Witch Is Dead" to the top of the charts through force of requests alone. There was no dramatic outbreak of serial killers around that time.

Maybe you got called out for dehumanizing Hitler, but not me. Hating Hitler doesn't make you a potential serial killer. Hating Nazis doesn't make you a potential serial killer. Hating your high school bully doesn't even make you a potential serial killer.

Would you charge me with attempted murder if I stuck a pin into an orange doll with a tuft of our president's horrible fake hair in it?
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Re: So Trump has Covid-19

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:12 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:35 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:48 am
Dragon Ball Fan wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:23 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:06 pm "Not being hated and despised" isn't a human right.
okay, fine but I care about someone holding hate in their heart because that can lead to materiel evil with materiel consequences. again, did you cheer when that cop got a brick thrown at him, would you cheer if a vigilante murdered Trump in his sleep?
I didn't even see footage of a cop getting hit with a brick. I'm following different news sources than you, remember?

Sleep murder nothing, I'll laugh my ass off if somebody rips 45's head off and spit down his neck. I'll drink champagne if I learn that he choked to death on his own lung fluids. And you know why?

Because I'm saving my empathy, compassion, and kindness for the reporters and staff he willfully exposed by ripping off his mask when he walked into the white house, and the secret service agents he infected because he wanted to make the stock market go up by driving around, and everyone he has condemned to a slow, horrible death because even when it infects him, personally, he does more for corona virus than he does for his constituents.

Don't ask me to have sympathy for the devil's incompetent nephew.
again, that kind of thinking will lead you to become a serial killer. no matter who it is, murder should never be celebrated. if I get called out for dehumanizing Hitler, why can't I call you out for this?
If it did, there would be a lot more serial killers. Contrary to movies tropes and detective shows, serial killers are extremely rare. There were enough people celebrating the death of Margaret Thatcher to drive "Ding Dong, the Witch Is Dead" to the top of the charts through force of requests alone. There was no dramatic outbreak of serial killers around that time.

Maybe you got called out for dehumanizing Hitler, but not me. Hating Hitler doesn't make you a potential serial killer. Hating Nazis doesn't make you a potential serial killer. Hating your high school bully doesn't even make you a potential serial killer.

Would you charge me with attempted murder if I stuck a pin into an orange doll with a tuft of our president's horrible fake hair in it?
Hating Hitler is fine. What about all those who supported him? Like with Mr. 45 in 2016? That's where it all blurs down, and I think our communities descend into echo chambers and mob rule and tribalism.

Here's a question I want to pose. What are the odds coming down with COVID helps the GOP to retain the white house? Assuming he recovers, and even if not, historically, there's still something to be said for his reelection, or the GOP's continued dominance on the president's office from examining similar incumbents such as Mr. FDR, who was consistently plagued by polio. Mr. Reagan was shot in 1981. Mr. Warren G. Harding's death kept his party in power till Mr. FDR. Mr. Lincoln, infamously, was murdered at the theater, and Mr. Grant went on to win the job.

What factor could that play this year?
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