CmdrKing wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:50 am
They are troll examples in that TERFs and other transphobes have seized upon these specific examples of bad actors as weapons to demonize literally all trans people. Bringing them up is about the same as asking if we should lock up all white men because Jeff Epstein had so many clients.
Maybe TERFS have, but I haven't. I'm not saying all transpeople are bad, or that these particular transpeople are somehow indicative of how most of them will behave. I am pointing to them as real, concrete examples of where your proposed government policy breaks down. So far, you only response to this has been to say "TRANSPHOBES! TROLLS! TERFS! WHY DO YOU WANT TO DENY PEOPLE BASIC RIGHTS?"
This is not particularly convincing on your part. And what's strange is that I know you can do better. You routinely provide thoughtful, erudite commentaries on works of fiction. You literally write them for a living. (or at least, I hope you get paid for them) And yet you're reduced to this when dealing with an issue that is clearly near and dear to your heart.
I am not your enemy here.
You missed the question with a Karen White. What are the procedures for dealing with women who assault *other prisoners* in women’s prison and why are *those* inadequate?
I didn't miss it. I can't answer it. The British government, ostensibly under the guise of protecting Karen's victims, has been VERY circumspect about what went down inside that prison. All they are saying is that mistakes were made, women were violated, and they will make sure it never happens again. They seem committed to too...at least for now - they've literally opened a prison wing for all of three prisoners, which is a super expensive thing to do.
Beyond that, think about what you’re suggesting and the logistics involved in claiming different genders on a daily basis to gain different benefits.
Well, that depends, doesn't it...on just how hard it is to "transition." If self-identification is literally the only thing that matters....then it's really, REALLY easy. It's pretty much as simple as going down to the DMV and getting a new ID with your preferred gender on it. Yeah, that would get tedious to do EVERY day, but doing it one day to make sure you qualify for a HUD grant? That's a no-brainer.
How many of those couldn’t be achieved by someone of lacking morals without that, and of the remainder how long would they have to maintain a false gender to get that benefit.
I think it's safe to say that many, MANY male prisoners lack morals. But only Karen White managed to get herself put into a women's prison, not because she ESPECIALLY lacked morals, but because she was able to abuse a (now-rescinded) policy that prisoners were to be treated as the gender they identified with. There are lots and lots of grifters out there, but Jessica was the pioneer when it came to using the female Brazilian as a club to bully women with. Because the problem here isn't really the
people - as far as I can tell, transpeople are just like any other population. Most of them are great. Some of them are sketchy. A few of them are broken. It's the
policy.
Every common example is one of those two.
That's...not very meaningful. VERY few people around the world live under a government that even accepts the PREMISE that you can transition, and most of the ones that do expect you to jump through rather a lot of hoops before they consider you to have transitioned. And even in places that DO meet those requirements...there just aren't very many transpeople. So the fact that we already have two bad actors is indicative of just HOW quickly we're going to run into problems unless we get appropriate policies in place.
