Batman: Caped Cursader

[Madner Kami]

Its an alternate continuity. Changes happened. Life goes on.

I find this a cheap excuse. Everything is alternate universe these days and the message I take from that is: Don't get invested, because it will be changed in a few years and everything you learned and liked will be invalidated. Once upon a time, alternate universes were a concept I liked, but the ubiquitousness of it has just become tiresome, because it rarely gets used as a good story concept, but more like a blanket excuse for lack of effort and someone wanting to make his own thing, but with a label attached that attracts an audience by default, no matter how loose the connection is.

Either way, it's funny that Jeffrey Wright is brought up. I didn't realize that the "The Batman"-Gordon was actually done by a black actor until now. Well, guess that proves how little it actually matters to me. It's something that just passes below my radar unless I get my nose put into it.
Guess it's the same with this iteration of Gordon. It's not really something that bothers me in and of itself, unless it actively works against the concept of the character. It's just perplexing when it's done without a good reason (argueably, getting a great and otherwise fitting actor for a given character is a good reason, e.g. Heimdall/Elba - though I'm still not entirely happy that a norse god was done by a black actor; I'd really want to know, how this would be recieved if it's done the other way around, say Anansi being played by a white actor that fits the role otherwise...).

[stryke]

I'd say the only change that annoyed me was Montoya. I just don't see why they needed to make her a heavyset women. She's already out that representing two minorities, and been doing a great job at that for over a decade now ever since she got outted in the incredible Half a Life arc of Gotham Central, that sticking on a third feels like trying too hard if that makes sense? Reminds me of SFDebris' bit about how they considered making Geordi gay.

Everyone else was fine including the lady Penguin. Her having two awful squabbling kids was great, and a nicely different spin on the character.

I think my biggest distraction was that the voice actor for Bats occasionally veers into sounding a bit too much like H. Jon Benjamin.

The episodes were pretty mixed. I don't think any of them were outright bad, and I liked quite a few of them, but some definitely worked better than others.

Best bits was using some unexpected characters like Midnite and Onomatopoeia who both added a lot to their episodes.

[ProfessorDetective]

Its an alternate continuity. Changes happened. Life goes on.

Either way, it's funny that Jeffrey Wright is brought up. I didn't realize that the "The Batman"-Gordon was actually done by a black actor until now. Well, guess that proves how little it actually matters to me. It's something that just passes below my radar unless I get my nose put into it.

He also played Batman, himself in The Audio Adventures, alongside Rosario Dawson as Catwoman, and Kenan Thompson as Gordon.


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[ProfessorDetective]

I'd say the only change that annoyed me was Montoya. I just don't see why they needed to make her a heavyset women. She's already out that representing two minorities, and been doing a great job at that for over a decade now ever since she got outted in the incredible Half a Life arc of Gotham Central, that sticking on a third feels like trying too hard if that makes sense? Reminds me of SFDebris' bit about how they considered making Geordi gay.

Everyone else was fine including the lady Penguin. Her having two awful squabbling kids was great, and a nicely different spin on the character.

I think my biggest distraction was that the voice actor for Bats occasionally veers into sounding a bit too much like H. Jon Benjamin.

The episodes were pretty mixed. I don't think any of them were outright bad, and I liked quite a few of them, but some definitely worked better than others.

Best bits was using some unexpected characters like Midnite and Onomatopoeia who both added a lot to their episodes.

Yeah, seeing Midnite was a fun surprise. "Oh, we're using HIM for our "magic guy? Batman works usually bring out Jason Blood for that. Neat."

[Nealithi]

Now to the whole 40's thing... YEAH it is a bit odd but hey, if a gay latina woman can be a cop here, I'm guessing this is a VERY different universe from ours. Kinda like how in the animated series, everyone drove 40's cars and computers were late 70's... but also we have a super computer that creates robot duplicates that have their own independent thoughts.

That is kinda the point. Originally TAS confused me on time and tech. The art deco and blimps and confusion on the batplane. A helicopter being new, etc. It made more sense as an old city in the modern world when Superman came out and Gotham got an update.

Kinda like doing a show in 1976. Bicentennial fever, the cars, the clothes and iPhones. . ? There better be some explaining because it is a period piece. And I am not quibbling things like the guitar used wasn't made till the next year kind of thing. But big differences.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I'd say the only change that annoyed me was Montoya. I just don't see why they needed to make her a heavyset women. She's already out that representing two minorities, and been doing a great job at that for over a decade now ever since she got outted in the incredible Half a Life arc of Gotham Central, that sticking on a third feels like trying too hard if that makes sense? Reminds me of SFDebris' bit about how they considered making Geordi gay.

I think it's not unreasonable, given that there are roughly six fat characters in the entire DC Universe.

[stryke]

I think it's not unreasonable, given that there are roughly six fat characters in the entire DC Universe.

Bullock, Perry White, Amanda Waller, Penguin, Natt the Hat, and Despair for six just off the top of my head.

I can think of more too if you want to include more jokey characters like Six Pack or Batmite or characters who have had their overweight eras like golden age Alfred (who made a neat return for this show), Lex Luthor, or pre getting buff Catman.

I also didn't mind them making Harleen chunkier at all, ditto all the other changes like making Penguin a lady, but doing it to Montoya too did feel excessive/unneeded as I don't think it fits her character.

[Madner Kami]

I also didn't mind them making Harleen chunkier at all, ditto all the other changes like making Penguin a lady, but doing it to Montoya too did feel excessive/unneeded as I don't think it fits her character.

Would've made more sense to make her buff, rather than puff. Plump cop is usually a stereotype for a corrupt or clumsy cop and Montoya is neither in any iteration of her that I am aware of. Quite the contrary even, which goes neatly with being physically fit.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I said "like six", engaging in hyperbole, but honestly fat representation in comic books universe is absolute shit. Also, fat=corruption as a stereotype is like...something we maybe shouldn't perpetuate?

[stryke]

Would've made more sense to make her buff, rather than puff. Plump cop is usually a stereotype for a corrupt or clumsy cop and Montoya is neither in any iteration of her that I am aware of. Quite the contrary even, which goes neatly with being physically fit.

Yeah, I'd have been fine with that, and as a Montoya fan, there's one iteration where's she's not exactly crooked but a bit fast and loose ethically which was her in early episodes of the Gotham show. Thankfully she's not around long, and leaving the show free to became the deranged gonzo fun time that it would go onto become.