Hamas Attacks Israel

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:41 pm So to clarify, are you honestly saying Fascism can be good sometimes? That you can be fascist and still be considered "good guys"? Because what I'm hearing is "Fascism is okay when it's our side doing it". If you just say "No, that's not what I mean. Fascism is bad." it would go a long way towards clearing things up and helping me understand your position.
In theory, yes, you should be able to entertain that possibility, even if you can't think of any way facism could actually turn out like that. The alternative is a dogmatic, bigoted attitude, where association with the word means you label something as bad, rather than deciding it's bad on its own merits irrespective of what label you put on it.

What happens in reality is that everything we see that can reasonably be labelled as fascist looks pretty awful, and like I said it's hard to imagine how it couldn't be, so a massive dose of scepticism is required towards any example that claims the opposite, but there's a world of difference between a mind that can keep a tiny crack open and one that's totally closed.
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Riedquat wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:05 amWhat happens in reality is that everything we see that can reasonably be labelled as fascist looks pretty awful, and like I said it's hard to imagine how it couldn't be, so a massive dose of scepticism is required towards any example that claims the opposite, but there's a world of difference between a mind that can keep a tiny crack open and one that's totally closed.
Just on the topic in general, to think critically you have to understand how science and theory works. Studies exhibit information, but you aren't trying to find out what you can infer from the results but crucially what you can weed out as misinformation or not factual. The relentless effort across diversified studies is what determines equilibriums more than just having a good idea of what is from one study.
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[Mandatory STEM rant about social research not being a real science here]
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Police in Germany foils plot to attack Jews across Europe. Just in case you needed any more proof that Hamas is anti-Jew and not anti-Israel.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/14/euro ... index.html
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Still waiting on an answer to my question, Clearspira.
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Hey Fuzzy, what is the question again?
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:18 pm Hey Fuzzy, what is the question again?
That is indeed the question.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:28 am Still waiting on an answer to my question, Clearspira.
No reaction to Hamas wanting to kill more innocent Jews? Jews not even related to Israel in the slightest? Jews who didn't vote in anyone, do anything to anyone or guilty of anything else other than be a Jew in the third degree? No?

Wow. It was suggested a few pages ago that you are a defender of Hamas. I didn't really agree with that, and yet...
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clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:42 pmNo reaction to Hamas wanting to kill more innocent Jews?
No reaction to the news, that water is wet?
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clearspira wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:42 pm
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:28 am Still waiting on an answer to my question, Clearspira.
No reaction to Hamas wanting to kill more innocent Jews? Jews not even related to Israel in the slightest? Jews who didn't vote in anyone, do anything to anyone or guilty of anything else other than be a Jew in the third degree? No?

Wow. It was suggested a few pages ago that you are a defender of Hamas. I didn't really agree with that, and yet...
Ultimately it doesn’t change that there are unacceptable levels of civilian casualties.

You’ve done fine work even before the hate crime distinction in making distinct hamas and Palestine, though states are still accountable for their actions in established conflict.
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