The Lost Room

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Re: The Lost Room

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clearspira wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm A cock ring that shoots bullets... Hello SCP Foundation, I have a new entry for you.
Don't you mean the SJW Foundation?
No, he doesn't.

SCP foundation is an online collaborative fiction sorta thing that's kind of like The Lost Room except most of the Objects double as horror monsters similar to Slender Man. The Foundation itself is also kind of creepy in the same way as the Men In Black, though to what degree depends on the writer. But others are basically Objects, but even weirder. Bogleech.com has reviews of some of his favorite entrees so you can get an idea of what its all about.
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Formless One wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm Bogleech.com has reviews of some of his favorite entrees so you can get an idea of what its all about.
I've never heard of Bogleech, so I can't speak to that listing specifically, but IMO a curated list is the only way to get into SCP. The vast majority of it is pretty terrible meandering garbage that wouldn't even be suitable for a movie-of-the-week on SyFy. There are some absolutely brilliant gems, but the site's own best-of listing is not a good place to start in my experience. It took several tries and quite some digging before I found the exceptional articles and stories hidden away on that site.

The absolutely impenetrable and inconsistent jargon the site has collectively invented for itself really doesn't help either. It's the sort of thing that undermines some of the concept, because it's clear the terminology isn't describing and cataloging in any meaningful way, it's just a slow accumulation of words added on bit-by-bit as needed by lots of different writers, often with the barest understanding of things like connotation or science.

IMO, the most popular/memetic SCP articles tend to be the writing equivalent of jump scares. That's enough for some people, but I want more from the SCP concept.
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Formless One wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm A cock ring that shoots bullets... Hello SCP Foundation, I have a new entry for you.
Don't you mean the SJW Foundation?
No, he doesn't.

*She

But, you are quite correct on the rest.

I can't believe we missed a cock ring that shoots bullets, although admittedly it is more a Kondraki era concept before the horror snobs began to dominate the site.
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For people enjoying Lost Room, I'd recommend digging into the Uknown Armies TTRPG and the works of Tim Powers (which were partially the inspiration for UA).

UA has the same secret wars fought in grim back allies by people using supernatural powers that give some advantage but seriously mess up your life as Lost Room.
In fact Lost Room something I would recommend to some to get a feel of what Unknown Armies is like.
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Formless One wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm A cock ring that shoots bullets... Hello SCP Foundation, I have a new entry for you.
Don't you mean the SJW Foundation?
No, he doesn't.

SCP foundation is an online collaborative fiction sorta thing that's kind of like The Lost Room except most of the Objects double as horror monsters similar to Slender Man. The Foundation itself is also kind of creepy in the same way as the Men In Black, though to what degree depends on the writer. But others are basically Objects, but even weirder. Bogleech.com has reviews of some of his favorite entrees so you can get an idea of what its all about.
I know what it is. I was referring to all of the SJW shit the site has been notorious for in recent years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgV-X6c8u0w
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clearspira wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:24 pm
Formless One wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm A cock ring that shoots bullets... Hello SCP Foundation, I have a new entry for you.
Don't you mean the SJW Foundation?
No, he doesn't.

SCP foundation is an online collaborative fiction sorta thing that's kind of like The Lost Room except most of the Objects double as horror monsters similar to Slender Man. The Foundation itself is also kind of creepy in the same way as the Men In Black, though to what degree depends on the writer. But others are basically Objects, but even weirder. Bogleech.com has reviews of some of his favorite entrees so you can get an idea of what its all about.
I know what it is. I was referring to all of the SJW shit the site has been notorious for in recent years.
:roll:
That is not the killing insult that you intend it to be. It is, however, a decent red flag on the value of your opinions.
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CrypticMirror wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:19 pm
clearspira wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:24 pm
Formless One wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:56 pm
clearspira wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:23 pm
CrypticMirror wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:27 pm A cock ring that shoots bullets... Hello SCP Foundation, I have a new entry for you.
Don't you mean the SJW Foundation?
No, he doesn't.

SCP foundation is an online collaborative fiction sorta thing that's kind of like The Lost Room except most of the Objects double as horror monsters similar to Slender Man. The Foundation itself is also kind of creepy in the same way as the Men In Black, though to what degree depends on the writer. But others are basically Objects, but even weirder. Bogleech.com has reviews of some of his favorite entrees so you can get an idea of what its all about.
I know what it is. I was referring to all of the SJW shit the site has been notorious for in recent years.
:roll:
That is not the killing insult that you intend it to be. It is, however, a decent red flag on the value of your opinions.
1) It wasn't intended to be a ''killer insult.'' It was a statement.
2) Disagreeing with me is one thing, but the ''value'' of my opinions? They are worth exactly what yours are i'm afraid - which is to say not a lot. That's the beauty of being a member of an 8 billion strong species, most of what you say and do and think is borderline meaningless in the grand scheme of things :)
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Coyote's Own wrote: Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:03 pm For people enjoying Lost Room, I'd recommend digging into the Uknown Armies TTRPG and the works of Tim Powers (which were partially the inspiration for UA).

UA has the same secret wars fought in grim back allies by people using supernatural powers that give some advantage but seriously mess up your life as Lost Room.
In fact Lost Room something I would recommend to some to get a feel of what Unknown Armies is like.
Hadn't heard of this (but I have read On Stranger Tides) so, thanks! Sounds like something I might enjoy playing.
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Deledrius wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:04 pm
rickgriffin wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:35 pm Okay so in part 3 I just had some thoughts related to what Julianna Margulies said re: not liking science fiction. Because I encounter the attitude a lot (especially from teachers in school) and in a way I don't quite get it.

I mean, I suppose, if you were to pick up one random science fiction book at random, it would be very unlikely to contain compelling themes. But I'd personally say the same about most any story. A lot of stories are just fluff stuff happening to people. But that stuff is still usually gonna be some kind of human drama, which is the thing they say the want from stories. Right? Am I wrong?

Even when science fiction is about aliens, it's about people, because stories are about people. If there's something to criticize sci-fi for it's that it often focuses on ideas and concepts to the detriment of actually exploring character, but ANY story can do that. It just seems baffling to be to suggest that sci-fi is somehow inherently devoid of character.
It's sad, because while I get what she was saying (and I think her description of the show as The Fugitive + Twilight Zone with a tiny bit of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe is spot-on) it felt like an understandable but ignorant assessment of the genre. And sadly, the rebuttal is staring at her right in the face: she's in a sci-fi story, but it's compelling and about people. Somehow, it didn't appear to have sunk in by the time of this interview that her preconception of what sci-fi is... was wrong.

Certainly people like what they like and dislike what they don't, but in this case it appears that she'd had very little if any actual exposure. The impression here is of someone who's only seen Flash Gordon comic covers and wrote the whole thing off as being uninteresting. Hopefully being in The Lost Room expanded that horizon just a bit. :)
I think the issue is the idea of good science fiction versus drop something with the flash of science fiction. Look at Chuck's reviews of movies where what plot they had was to string together the special effects. Instead of the special effects supporting the plot and story. Too many entries have great or even grand effects and not much else. Look at the background review for this. They had an idea and concept. But no story. Now how many ideas get out without the going back and making a story to go with it?
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Exactly. That's why it seems strange, as someone whose exposure to science fiction isn't so shallow, to hear that sort of dismissal from her. It's sad, and understandable, but also not uncommon.
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