Let's get down to brass tacks... (SJWs/influence in movies)

[Yukaphile]

No, but calling it "radical Islam" is part of a political slant to paint a narrative that all Muslims are assholes. The key lies in the wording. If we're gonna call it "radical Islam," then why not call it "radical Christianity?" They've done just as much evil shit in the name of their beliefs, and like Muslims, the majority are not bad. "Radical Islam" is an attempt by religious bigots in the GOP to try and push the perception that most Muslims are bad. They know the most casual person would hear that, and so it takes root in your mind, and eventually you begin to think of them all as bad. Hell, look at how they opposed Obama on everything, calling him a goddamn "gay Muslim." Now, if he was a gay, or was a Muslim, that's fine, but... he wasn't, so it's character assassination, and racism and homophobia. I know lots of right of center people who try to argue Christianity was founded on something purer, more noble than Islam was, because Mohammed was a womanizer, rapist, married children, but then... is that so shocking back then? Hell, most figures who found a movement or a belief or an idea are hypocrites. Look at our own Founding Fathers. They insisted "all" men are created equal, except for women and other ethnic races, right? LIKE THEIR SLAVES. So in conclusion, "radical Islam" seems like an attempt to start a holy war by the religious right no different than those fanatical jihadists want. The same way their own fringe base like Dylann Roof wanna start a race riot and an ethnic purge. I don't understand how you can't see this.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

They only demand it when it comes movies. Other than that, they go out of their way to systematically make life a lot harder for minorities and women. It doesn't help most people in the GOP leadership are, primarily, white guys. Older religious white guys from a more archaic time, and they want to take us back to those times.

Point to any legislation conservatives have introduced to give minorities or women fewer rights than whites or men

Georgia Heartbeat bill. Done.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Basically what Darth Welgius just said is hypocritical. So he doesn't want conservatives that he is part of generalized but is happy to do so for liberals without wanting to consider that ones that he is so against could be minority. So him telling Yuka to look into about conservatives when he isn't willing to do so himself with liberals is hypocritical. More these "anti-SJWs" show they hypocrisy, more laughable they become and less it makes me want to waste my time with them.

So give me the examples I asked Yuka for. There are some racist and sexist conservatives, sure. But I can give you many more examples of liberals wanting different races or sexes being treated differently.

Might wanna put a car clamp on those goalposts before they roll all the fuck away.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Well, there was that abortion ban, recently. That's taking rights away from women. And of course, you got their language. One Republican politician said President Obama was, "Jiving and grooving." That's so outrageously racist, it's just... shocking. Yeah, maybe they're not actively trying to screw over minorities, but then, they have defended that they would not have sided with actual decisions in the past that empowered disfranchised minorities, and so you have somebody who is only going to put himself and those like him first.

Not conservatives. The hard righters. I distinguish the two.

Men can't get abortions either. I phrased my question very carefully -- when have conservatives said they wanted women or minorities treated with fewer rights or not treated as well?

What they have SAID is irrelevant to what they DO. If they take away rights from women and minorities, it doens't really matter if they crow "we are doing this to be more fiscally responsible!"

[Darth Wedgius]

They only demand it when it comes movies. Other than that, they go out of their way to systematically make life a lot harder for minorities and women. It doesn't help most people in the GOP leadership are, primarily, white guys. Older religious white guys from a more archaic time, and they want to take us back to those times.

Point to any legislation conservatives have introduced to give minorities or women fewer rights than whites or men

Georgia Heartbeat bill. Done.

Men can't get abortions either. And even where and when women can choose to get rid of their obligations to a child, men cannot.

I worded my query very specifically. Try again.

[Darth Wedgius]

Well, there was that abortion ban, recently. That's taking rights away from women. And of course, you got their language. One Republican politician said President Obama was, "Jiving and grooving." That's so outrageously racist, it's just... shocking. Yeah, maybe they're not actively trying to screw over minorities, but then, they have defended that they would not have sided with actual decisions in the past that empowered disfranchised minorities, and so you have somebody who is only going to put himself and those like him first.

Not conservatives. The hard righters. I distinguish the two.

Men can't get abortions either. I phrased my question very carefully -- when have conservatives said they wanted women or minorities treated with fewer rights or not treated as well?

What they have SAID is irrelevant to what they DO. If they take away rights from women and minorities, it doens't really matter if they crow "we are doing this to be more fiscally responsible!"

Then point to what they have DONE to give fewer rights to women and minorities than men and whites.

[Darth Wedgius]

Basically what Darth Welgius just said is hypocritical. So he doesn't want conservatives that he is part of generalized but is happy to do so for liberals without wanting to consider that ones that he is so against could be minority. So him telling Yuka to look into about conservatives when he isn't willing to do so himself with liberals is hypocritical. More these "anti-SJWs" show they hypocrisy, more laughable they become and less it makes me want to waste my time with them.

So give me the examples I asked Yuka for. There are some racist and sexist conservatives, sure. But I can give you many more examples of liberals wanting different races or sexes being treated differently.

Might wanna put a car clamp on those goalposts before they roll all the fuck away.

Mecha said I didn't want to look into conservatives being racist or sexist, and that I was willing to group liberals together but not conservatives.

To the latter, I never said all liberals are alike. I said more liberals support, by word or deed, discrimination by sex or race. So Mecha is simply wrong.

To the former, I asked for evidence. How is that not looking into conservatives being racist or sexist?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

They only demand it when it comes movies. Other than that, they go out of their way to systematically make life a lot harder for minorities and women. It doesn't help most people in the GOP leadership are, primarily, white guys. Older religious white guys from a more archaic time, and they want to take us back to those times.

Point to any legislation conservatives have introduced to give minorities or women fewer rights than whites or men

Georgia Heartbeat bill. Done.

Men can't get abortions either. And even where and when women can choose to get rid of their obligations to a child, men cannot.

I worded my query very specifically. Try again.

You're right, trans men are barred from getting abortions together.

This is something which massively, on the large, decreases the bodily autonomy rights of women, especially ones who are too poor to afford contraception or travel for an abortion.

But again, you care way more about the letter of the law than its real effect on living people. As long as it doesn't say "This is to hurt women, muahahhaha" you think it's okay to weasel out of the consequences.

[Darth Wedgius]

They only demand it when it comes movies. Other than that, they go out of their way to systematically make life a lot harder for minorities and women. It doesn't help most people in the GOP leadership are, primarily, white guys. Older religious white guys from a more archaic time, and they want to take us back to those times.

Point to any legislation conservatives have introduced to give minorities or women fewer rights than whites or men

Georgia Heartbeat bill. Done.

Men can't get abortions either. And even where and when women can choose to get rid of their obligations to a child, men cannot.

I worded my query very specifically. Try again.

You're right, trans men are barred from getting abortions together.

Straw man. Please try to be honest, Fuzzy.

This is something which massively, on the large, decreases the bodily autonomy rights of women, especially ones who are too poor to afford contraception or travel for an abortion.

But again, you care way more about the letter of the law than its real effect on living people. As long as it doesn't say "This is to hurt women, muahahhaha" you think it's okay to weasel out of the consequences.

You seem to have a difficulty understanding what I said.

Find me a law or proposition for a law or a statement by a conservative that they want a law that will reduce the rights of a woman or a member of a racial minority below that of a man or a white person. I keep saying that, but I want this interpreted as literally as possible.

You may assume that a law was passed to oppress the women but, sorry, telepathic evidence is not admissible in this case. Your assumptions as to motive are not evidence, and I can hardly believe that I actually have to point that out.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

It's not about assumptions of motive, it's about consequences.
You are not reading what I say.

It doesn't matter what they SAY they intend, it's what they DO and the EFFECT it has on people. Remember the wire hanger times?