Reaching Out Across the Aisle

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Well there were these people in the 30's and 40's who used to use facts.

[TGLS]

I don't think he'll run either. He's more likely to throw his support behind another candidate. I don't think he enjoyed being President too much.

You mean Vice-President

[Jonathan101]

I don't think he'll run either. He's more likely to throw his support behind another candidate. I don't think he enjoyed being President too much.

You mean Vice-President

Woops! Thought we were talking about Trump, not Biden

But yeah, I don't think Biden will run again either (in fact I think he said he wouldn't). I do think he'll still down in 2022 to make way for Harris.

[Thebestoftherest]

I don't think he'll run either. He's more likely to throw his support behind another candidate. I don't think he enjoyed being President too much.

You mean Vice-President

Woops! Thought we were talking about Trump, not Biden

But yeah, I don't think Biden will run again either (in fact I think he said he wouldn't). I do think he'll still down in 2022 to make way for Harris.

I think he happy to got it at all.

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

Okay now...given the breadth and range of our political beliefs and their natural outgrowths, how do we respond to each other's statements of purpose without spinning this thread off in a dozen different directions? =S I didn't really think this through.

[Nevix]

Okay now...given the breadth and range of our political beliefs and their natural outgrowths, how do we respond to each other's statements of purpose without spinning this thread off in a dozen different directions? =S I didn't really think this through.

I'm not sure we can prevent that from happening, or that we should, for that matter. ;p

But, the quote function on the forum helps in keeping conversations on specific subjects together, and who is addressing who straight.

I will try to continue the prior conversation thread of ours soon. It's been something else at work, and I'm pulling overtime too, but I'm definitely going to keep coming back to this thread when I can.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Okay now...given the breadth and range of our political beliefs and their natural outgrowths, how do we respond to each other's statements of purpose without spinning this thread off in a dozen different directions? =S I didn't really think this through.

I'm trying to make this an argumentative and contentious thread, but no one is biting.

[ThatThingISentYa]

I would love to reach out, but doing so IRL or on social media would likely mean being fired.

I'm registered independent but ideologically more of an agnostic paleo-conservative. I voted for Trump in both 2020 and 2016, stayed home in 2012 after having voted for Obama in 2008, and would have voted against Bush in 2004 and 2000 if I had been old enough. Trump was the first republican I could stomach voting for on the national level because he was the only politician in my lifetime seriously talking about the issues that actually matter, namely the decades of horrendous trade and immigration policies which have undermined America's once-great manufacturing sector and wages, without also being a socialist. His first term was disappointing, honestly not that dissimilar from Obama's first, but the riots and lockdown plus some actual progress on the border wall over the last year convinced me to give him another shot.

Nobody besides my significant other knows any of this because we're both in academia in one of the largest and deepest blue cities in the country. My thesis mentor and lab-mates have talked at great length about how much they would love to see the president and the first family dead. One of my friends (incidentally a 'woman of color' herself) here was recently 'canceled' and then dropped from her thesis lab after expressing reservations about supporting BLM. So yeah, I'm not about to reach out to people who would do everything in their power to destroy me if they knew what I believed.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

I would love to reach out, but doing so IRL or on social media would likely mean being fired.

I'm registered independent but ideologically more of an agnostic paleo-conservative. I voted for Trump in both 2020 and 2016, stayed home in 2012 after having voted for Obama in 2008, and would have voted against Bush in 2004 and 2000 if I had been old enough. Trump was the first republican I could stomach voting for on the national level because he was the only politician in my lifetime seriously talking about the issues that actually matter, namely the decades of horrendous trade and immigration policies which have undermined America's once-great manufacturing sector and wages, without also being a socialist. His first term was disappointing, honestly not that dissimilar from Obama's first, but the riots and lockdown plus some actual progress on the border wall over the last year convinced me to give him another shot.

Just curious if there's any pieces you would point to, detailed or not, that accounts for past trade policy that steered our industries afoul?

[Fuzzy Necromancer]

I would love to reach out, but doing so IRL or on social media would likely mean being fired.

I'm registered independent but ideologically more of an agnostic paleo-conservative. I voted for Trump in both 2020 and 2016, stayed home in 2012 after having voted for Obama in 2008, and would have voted against Bush in 2004 and 2000 if I had been old enough. Trump was the first republican I could stomach voting for on the national level because he was the only politician in my lifetime seriously talking about the issues that actually matter, namely the decades of horrendous trade and immigration policies which have undermined America's once-great manufacturing sector and wages, without also being a socialist. His first term was disappointing, honestly not that dissimilar from Obama's first, but the riots and lockdown plus some actual progress on the border wall over the last year convinced me to give him another shot.

Nobody besides my significant other knows any of this because we're both in academia in one of the largest and deepest blue cities in the country. My thesis mentor and lab-mates have talked at great length about how much they would love to see the president and the first family dead. One of my friends (incidentally a 'woman of color' herself) here was recently 'canceled' and then dropped from her thesis lab after expressing reservations about supporting BLM. So yeah, I'm not about to reach out to people who would do everything in their power to destroy me if they knew what I believed.

I've always wondered how somebody could be an Obama-Trump voter, given that to me at least they seem radically different in every conceivable way. Thank you for that insight into your priorities.

I have to say that, given what your key issues are, I am unlikely to find any common ground at all with you.