Remember how the Mainstream Media said they won't be coming for Jefferson and Washington Next?

[Dragon Ball Fan]

Citing Steve Shives as an example of bigotry is just telling on yourself, seeing as the worst he'll say is "if you're a conservative, people you vote for are getting people killed, and you can fuck off and stop watching my videos".

It's just deliberately trying to mistake "I have no tolerance for bigotry" for bigotry itself.

no, Steve Shives made a video discussing why conservatives would like Star Trek, where wile he didn't say it in those exact words, he makes it clear he thinks to be conservative, one MUST also be a racist.

His point was like, initiating it with; no, not all conservatives are all x,y, and z, but there is a degree of complicity, especially I presume when voting for the Republican party president. I'm sure that that was specifically crucial to the context of Trump being more or less hand in hand with them.

A generalization, possibly, but he does try to come out measured in his responses.

edit: then again I think there might be two similar videos where he talks on that subject a bit, but I do remember the video of him saying "duh you can be conservative and like Trek. I don't know why you would, but" it goes without saying, or something to that effect.

yes but then he goes to say that one reason conservatives might like Trek is because the bad guys all have dark skin and are immediately unrecognizable as humans.

[GreyICE]

yes but then he goes to say that one reason conservatives might like Trek is because the bad guys all have dark skin and are immediately unrecognizable as humans.

I think the enduring popularity of Starship Troopers from people who have literally no idea what they're reading indicates there's a conservative market for "humans are awesome, fuck the aliens" Science Fiction. Or, y'know, John Ringo's entire career.

But we do seem to have already established that you believe "people are people" but you have zero ability to respect or empathize with other people or even consider their viewpoint as if it might have some validity as soon as it contradicts your own, so I don't even know why I'm writing this.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

yes but then he goes to say that one reason conservatives might like Trek is because the bad guys all have dark skin and are immediately unrecognizable as humans.

I think the enduring popularity of Starship Troopers from people who have literally no idea what they're reading indicates there's a conservative market for "humans are awesome, fuck the aliens" Science Fiction. Or, y'know, John Ringo's entire career.

But we do seem to have already established that you believe "people are people" but you have zero ability to respect or empathize with other people or even consider their viewpoint as if it might have some validity as soon as it contradicts your own, so I don't even know why I'm writing this.

I do know of some people who some would call SJW that I do respect but they are the exception, at least from my experience. and I do try to see other points of view, it's just I don't come across an argument I will concede to very often but there are examples of me doing so in this and the other news thread.

[GreyICE]

I do know of some people who some would call SJW that I do respect but they are the exception, at least from my experience. and I do try to see other points of view, it's just I don't come across an argument I will concede to very often but there are examples of me doing so in this and the other news thread.

You didn't read to the end of my post to address anything I said my dude. I can't see how you could possibly say that you try to see other people's point of view when you don't even read my point of view.

Or maybe you don't respect me. That's fine, fuck you too.

[CmdrKing]

no, Steve Shives made a video discussing why conservatives would like Star Trek, where wile he didn't say it in those exact words, he makes it clear he thinks to be conservative, one MUST also be a racist.

Ah, that's the source of the confusion.

Saying "supporting conservative causes necessarily means supporting bigotry and discrimination" is not bigotry.

It is a statement of fact.

You cannot support conservatism or conservative politicians, be it electorally, financially, or rhetorically without contributing to bigotry and discrimination against marginalized peoples. Bigotry and discriminatory policy are so intertwined with modern conservatism that there is no means by which to support one without the other.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

I do know of some people who some would call SJW that I do respect but they are the exception, at least from my experience. and I do try to see other points of view, it's just I don't come across an argument I will concede to very often but there are examples of me doing so in this and the other news thread.

You didn't read to the end of my post to address anything I said my dude. I can't see how you could possibly say that you try to see other people's point of view when you don't even read my point of view.

Or maybe you don't respect me. That's fine, fuck you too.

I read everything you say, I just don't reply to it all.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

no, Steve Shives made a video discussing why conservatives would like Star Trek, where wile he didn't say it in those exact words, he makes it clear he thinks to be conservative, one MUST also be a racist.

Ah, that's the source of the confusion.

Saying "supporting conservative causes necessarily means supporting bigotry and discrimination" is not bigotry.

It is a statement of fact.

You cannot support conservatism or conservative politicians, be it electorally, financially, or rhetorically without contributing to bigotry and discrimination against marginalized peoples. Bigotry and discriminatory policy are so intertwined with modern conservatism that there is no means by which to support one without the other.

yeah, no, conservatives can be non bigoted, like the one who responded to Steve Shives.

also, a conservative is not automatically a republican.

[GreyICE]

I read everything you say, I just don't reply to it all.

Okay then, if you read what I wrote, and chose not to respond, let me respond to you in kind.

Go fuck yourself. Go. Fuck. Yourself.

Piece of shit.

[Dragon Ball Fan]

I read everything you say, I just don't reply to it all.

Okay then, if you read what I wrote, and chose not to respond, let me respond to you in kind.

Go fuck yourself. Go. Fuck. Yourself.

Piece of shit.

I didn't know how to reply to most of the things you said, it wasn't that I didn't care.

[GreyICE]

Fine, boiled down simply:

Please read this website: https://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions

What these are are actionable policy items, research telling you why the group believes they should beenacted, and why. I'm willing to bet a fair sum of money you've never seen them. But I'll also bet you've seen some ridiculous "this is what BLM supports" screenshot, twitter post, etc.

Why have you seen one, but not the other?