How best to combat fake news?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

[Admiral X]

Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means.

[Karha of Honor]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

Use your respectable means to show me that right wing media and right wingers pay less attention to social issues.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

Use your respectable means to show me that right wing media and right wingers pay less attention to social issues.

Fox News.

[Karha of Honor]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

Use your respectable means to show me that right wing media and right wingers pay less attention to social issues.

Fox News.

That is a dissapointing answer.

[Worffan101]

Asks how to fight fake news. Mischaracterizes the right.
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How exactly am I mischaracterizing the Right?

[Worffan101]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

Use your respectable means to show me that right wing media and right wingers pay less attention to social issues.

Fox News.

Fox pays plenty of attention to social issues, it just lies nonstop and pushes an insane propaganda worldview where the United States is under siege by human waves of mongrelized foreign hordes who want to rape our women and take over the country and turn it into Mexicostan.

Honestly, I'd PREFER if Fox stopped paying attention to social issues, but it's not going to because there's a lot of money in whipping people up into an unreasoning terrified frenzy.

[Karha of Honor]

It's not really an issue of truth particularly. Left-leaning establishment does have objective support from information refined through respectable means. Attention to social issues isn't rooted in societal victims' and sjw's emotive arguments, they do draw upon empirically tested studies and assessments, research, umm, ethics. You get a lot of coyotes on both sides, but the right's attention to "matters pertaining to social issues" is primarily antagonism to people that pay a lot, if not too much, attention to social issues. I mean, the right doesn't really operate on truth when it's not really concerned with the objective support on the left and oh so often exclusively talks about more so random voices among people on the left without consideration for the establishment itself and what it's actually set out to do.

Use your respectable means to show me that right wing media and right wingers pay less attention to social issues.

Fox News.

Fox pays plenty of attention to social issues, it just lies nonstop and pushes an insane propaganda worldview where the United States is under siege by human waves of mongrelized foreign hordes who want to rape our women and take over the country and turn it into Mexicostan.

Honestly, I'd PREFER if Fox stopped paying attention to social issues, but it's not going to because there's a lot of money in whipping people up into an unreasoning terrified frenzy.

There is no money in gainning democratic voters via immigration?

[Riedquat]

@Riedquat The problem really is when people use that to try and remove the victimhood from the legitimate victims and apply that to the attackers, people who aren't victims at all. That's my biggest beef.

It's a problem when it jumps to conclusions either way around. My beef is with preconceived ideas of what's good or bad so substitute thinking for following a checklist and then chucking in to whichever pigeonhole that says it should go in (the checklist sometimes containing only one item). That may be a good place to start - no-one ever has the full picture and an initial opinion needs to come from somewhere but too often it stops there. There's also a tendency to want to paint things in black and white.

Another beef is those with a lack of responsibility, particularly self-responsibility. Walk around a dodgy area at night and if you get attacked that doesn't excuse the attackers in the slightest but you're also a bloody idiot. Pointing that out is not victim blaming, nor is it letting the attackers off the hook one little bit.

[G-Man]

The real problem here is that the question Worffan101 is asking is not "how can I try to make discussions as factual as possible? How best can I correct factual errors in arguments?" There is no worry here that he might actually be taken in by fake news at points; it isn't "how can I point out to others when they are posting incorrect information, and how best to avoid doing so myself?"

Rather, the question basically comes down to "How can I get everyone else to see that I am right, and how can I fight to make certain that my prejudices are the ones everyone accepts?"