Cabin in the Woods review

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So if we're taking a Doylist view...how the fuck do we, as the Great Old Ones, get to toss Joss Whedon into a pit of fire?
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turn off the tv
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J!! wrote:turn off the tv
Bitch this is Cinema. It aint on tv.
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my view on the end of the film: While I don't agree with Marty's reasoning (that being that humanity deserves to die) I do have to say I would probably do the same thing as fight. Were I in Marty's situation I think I would come to the conclusion that is humanity is going to survive, it must earn that right an ability. And we won't earn that by dancing to the Elder God's tune.
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I think I would be willing to die horribly to save humanity, but that has less to do with altruism and more to do with the low value I place on my own miserable life.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:I think I would be willing to die horribly to save humanity, but that has less to do with altruism and more to do with the low value I place on my own miserable life.
You suck some major donkeyballs and you learned that skill from your mom!

Just putting you down a bit, just in case you get abducted by a doomsday cult that needs you to sacrifice yourself freely tonight. Thanks!
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote:I think I would be willing to die horribly to save humanity, but that has less to do with altruism and more to do with the low value I place on my own miserable life.
Just imagine someone else saying, "I'd be willing to sacrifice you, too!" ;)

I think the thing that would stick in my craw would be that nobody asked me to sacrifice myself - they just picked me, for seemingly no reason, to die rather than risk their own worthless hides. So, hell no, I wouldn't just lay down and die for that lot, or just even in general, really. I'd fight to the bitter end, and if I won then I guess I'd take it that I was meant to win. Sorry, guess it's time for the apocalypse! See you in the sea of LCL! :twisted:


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A really interesting article on allegory vs. metaphor vs. plot in this movie

https://vraikaiser.com/2014/09/15/the-c ... s-problem/
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I really got to ask, in 2012 what was up with the bad endings? Cabin in the Woods, Mass Effect 3 and Assassin's Creed 3, all had terrible endings that rendered the rest of the journey pointless, if Far Cry 5 with it's terrible endings was released during this time it would have fit right in that year. Hell even Skyfall was kinda similar as Bond ultimately failed in his task but in that case failing was sort of the whole point of that story.

I guess between Cabin's ending was to be expected as the whole point of that movie was over the top violence but the fact our "hero" decides to let the whole world die because he's angry at a bunch of jerks who killed his friends. And I get it, losing people you care about is something that is going to effect you in a negative way but Marty loses the moral argument when he lets a werewolf attack and nearly kill Dana just for his revenge.

Much like The Dom's feelings on how the Hunger Games series ended I get the same feeling from ME3's ending and most recently with the direction Star Wars is going by having all the heroes from the original Trilogy regress in character development. Make the situation worse just by being shortsighted idiots and ends with all of them dying in short order to make way for the new heroes.
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Winter wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:06 am I really got to ask, in 2012 what was up with the bad endings? Cabin in the Woods, Mass Effect 3 and Assassin's Creed 3, all had terrible endings that rendered the rest of the journey pointless, if Far Cry 5 with it's terrible endings was released during this time it would have fit right in that year. Hell even Skyfall was kinda similar as Bond ultimately failed in his task but in that case failing was sort of the whole point of that story.

I guess between Cabin's ending was to be expected as the whole point of that movie was over the top violence but the fact our "hero" decides to let the whole world die because he's angry at a bunch of jerks who killed his friends. And I get it, losing people you care about is something that is going to effect you in a negative way but Marty loses the moral argument when he lets a werewolf attack and nearly kill Dana just for his revenge.

Much like The Dom's feelings on how the Hunger Games series ended I get the same feeling from ME3's ending and most recently with the direction Star Wars is going by having all the heroes from the original Trilogy regress in character development. Make the situation worse just by being shortsighted idiots and ends with all of them dying in short order to make way for the new heroes.
The trend of the good guys not winning so much as stopping the villains after their genocide is a weird one. Javier Grillo-Marxuach (creator of The Middleman) wrote about this trend a few years ago: https://okbjgm.tumblr.com/post/11255035 ... -kicking-a
okbjgm wrote: the job of the hero up until very recently, used to be to, in the words of stocker pentecost “cancel the apocalypse”…

nowadays, the job of the hero is to fail to stop the apocalypse, let it happen just long enough that the audience is entertained by the marriage of irwin allen disaster porn and spy/superhero action, and then kill the bad guy just in time for the innocent civilians to emerge bruised and battered from the crossfire
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