'Senate Republicans have blocked the creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.'

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Re: 'Senate Republicans have blocked the creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.'

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Captain Crimson wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:57 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:38 pm Weren't filibusters used to keep segregation in America?
That is certainly the downside, but as I illustrated before, there are also advantages to it as well. You're also ignoring segregation back then was quite democratic. It wasn't until the young bleeding hearts of the 1960s that changes.
It doesn't matter which party was using it, the fact that it was used to perpetuate segregation makes it a bad thing. If you want things to ever get better the filibuster is an unqualified evil.
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Re: 'Senate Republicans have blocked the creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.'

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Thebestoftherest wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 2:25 am
Captain Crimson wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:57 pm
Thebestoftherest wrote: Sun May 30, 2021 11:38 pm Weren't filibusters used to keep segregation in America?
That is certainly the downside, but as I illustrated before, there are also advantages to it as well. You're also ignoring segregation back then was quite democratic. It wasn't until the young bleeding hearts of the 1960s that changes.
Didn't one guy read a cook book during a filibuster?
I remember reading about one guy actually reading the phone book. I think it was one of thd longest ones too. Like a full day.
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Re: 'Senate Republicans have blocked the creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.'

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Any system of power will have avenues for exploitation. That is inevitable. And yet, it is one thing I can respect about the DNC is that they always go to try to stay on point with their talking filibusters. But sometimes delaying a voice is all that we need. Like imagine if it was a vote that would remove women's right to vote, hypothetically. Don't tell me you'd oppose a talking filibuster that delayed that and the motion was dismissed, even if it's reading the complete works of War and Peace for two straight days.
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Re: 'Senate Republicans have blocked the creation of a bipartisan panel to study the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.'

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Captain Crimson wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 7:25 am Any system of power will have avenues for exploitation. That is inevitable. And yet, it is one thing I can respect about the DNC is that they always go to try to stay on point with their talking filibusters. But sometimes delaying a voice is all that we need. Like imagine if it was a vote that would remove women's right to vote, hypothetically. Don't tell me you'd oppose a talking filibuster that delayed that and the motion was dismissed, even if it's reading the complete works of War and Peace for two straight days.
A) The filibuster is irrelevant because even assuming you didn't need an amendment to to repeal the right of women to vote, if they are hell bent on repealing that right they'll just nuke the filibuster right then and there because unlike the Democrats the Republicans don't give a shit about the process. The only reason that the Republicans haven't already destroyed the filibuster is that no part of their governing agenda requires passing legislation.
B) You can't read the complete works of War and Peace because War and Peace is a singular novel. That's like saying you read the complete works of A Christmas Carol or the complete works of The Hound of the Baskervilles.
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