GOP in CA did voter fraud and will do it again

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Re: GOP in CA did voter fraud and will do it again

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Makeshift Python wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:21 pm
Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:39 pm And let me ask you this. What does it matter?
Spoken like a true cynic.
Cynic: noun.
A person who believes that people are motivated purely by self-interest rather than acting for honourable or unselfish reasons.

Sounds like a fairly apt description of the human race to me. I'm a proud cynic myself. I think that's why we love superheroes so much as a society: they're unrealistic. I'm not talking about their powers, i'm talking about their morals. People who truly put others before themselves are a very rare breed.
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Re: GOP in CA did voter fraud and will do it again

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Only a cynic would believe that.
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It's rather postmodern. Especially for someone who espouses modernist works like comic books and Roddenberry Trek'ism.
..What mirror universe?
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Re: GOP in CA did voter fraud and will do it again

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Captain Crimson wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:41 am Does it help to put your mind at ease, at all, that I say voter disenfranchisement this way is wrong?
You said that voter fraud by the GOP in CA was the Democrat's fault. What kind of insane troll logic is that?
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clearspira wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 pm
unknownsample wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:49 pm Every American should be given a mail-in ballot in the mail and every vote should be counted.
Here in Britain when I go to vote all I need is my polling card I give my name and address at my local polling station I get given my ballot paper I then fold my ballot paper and put it in the ballot box.
Americans seem to enjoy making voting complicated.
It's called voter suppression, my egg-not-washing friend. B) The more barriers you put up to voting, the better a chance that people either give up or get discounted because they didn't file form A slash B Epsilon, and the fewer votes you get, the better chance the GOP have of winning.
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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:28 am
clearspira wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 pm
unknownsample wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:49 pm Every American should be given a mail-in ballot in the mail and every vote should be counted.
Here in Britain when I go to vote all I need is my polling card I give my name and address at my local polling station I get given my ballot paper I then fold my ballot paper and put it in the ballot box.
Americans seem to enjoy making voting complicated.
It's called voter suppression, my egg-not-washing friend. B) The more barriers you put up to voting, the better a chance that people either give up or get discounted because they didn't file form A slash B Epsilon, and the fewer votes you get, the better chance the GOP have of winning.
Is that why democrats have a conniption and cry racism when republicans suggest voter ID
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Antiboyscout wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:56 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:28 am
clearspira wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 pm
unknownsample wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:49 pm Every American should be given a mail-in ballot in the mail and every vote should be counted.
Here in Britain when I go to vote all I need is my polling card I give my name and address at my local polling station I get given my ballot paper I then fold my ballot paper and put it in the ballot box.
Americans seem to enjoy making voting complicated.
It's called voter suppression, my egg-not-washing friend. B) The more barriers you put up to voting, the better a chance that people either give up or get discounted because they didn't file form A slash B Epsilon, and the fewer votes you get, the better chance the GOP have of winning.
Is that why democrats have a conniption and cry racism when republicans suggest voter ID
One of the reasons, yes. Requiring a "valid ID" opens up many more opportunities for bureaucracy being used to get in the way of somebody exercising their right to vote. Even if you don't think it is that big of a deal, replacing or getting new IDs costs money as well, and some people really don't have the cash to spare. It may also require several forms that those who are citizens, but have difficulty with English, may have trouble filling out. And yes, minorities are more likely to have economic difficulties.
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Edvarius wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:34 am
Antiboyscout wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:56 am
Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:28 am
clearspira wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:37 pm
unknownsample wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:48 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:49 pm Every American should be given a mail-in ballot in the mail and every vote should be counted.
Here in Britain when I go to vote all I need is my polling card I give my name and address at my local polling station I get given my ballot paper I then fold my ballot paper and put it in the ballot box.
Americans seem to enjoy making voting complicated.
It's called voter suppression, my egg-not-washing friend. B) The more barriers you put up to voting, the better a chance that people either give up or get discounted because they didn't file form A slash B Epsilon, and the fewer votes you get, the better chance the GOP have of winning.
Is that why democrats have a conniption and cry racism when republicans suggest voter ID
One of the reasons, yes. Requiring a "valid ID" opens up many more opportunities for bureaucracy being used to get in the way of somebody exercising their right to vote. Even if you don't think it is that big of a deal, replacing or getting new IDs costs money as well, and some people really don't have the cash to spare. It may also require several forms that those who are citizens, but have difficulty with English, may have trouble filling out. And yes, minorities are more likely to have economic difficulties.
So it was ok for California to force me to get a new Real ID drivers licence because they wanted to give licence to illegals and let them vote in local elections, but it isn't ok to do it on a national level to simplify the voting process.
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This hit the nail on the head
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Re: GOP in CA did voter fraud and will do it again

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Fuzzy Necromancer wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:24 am This hit the nail on the head
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The most repeatedly disarming thing about the Trump era is how it’s exposed that laws basically are not even prosecutable if you’re in the right position. I’m not even talking about high priced lawyers clearing your slate. I mean LAWS JUST NOT BEING ENFORCED AGAINST YOU AT ALL.
I know, can you believe all those violent protesters and literal arsonists that DA's in places like Chicago and Portland refused to prosecute?
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