I have a lot of respect for Snowden. It takes a lot of guts to walk away from a comfortable life to try and shine some light in dark places. I suspect history will largely vindicate him.
But he did still commit a crime.
Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
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Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
If Putin asked Snowden, a man who risked lots to reveal sketchy things the government did when liberty was threatened, to hack the American election, Putin's much stupider than I would have thought.
Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
Yeah, he may have committed a crime but it was in the effort to reveal the bigger and deeper crime of the NSA against the American people.
"The russians skewed the election!'' if they did, they did it very easily and at minimal cost or resources. It's like I gathered a troll group to sway the election and somehow found this fertile ground of people willing to go along with what I had to say on public forums, tweets, facebook, ect...
"The russians skewed the election!'' if they did, they did it very easily and at minimal cost or resources. It's like I gathered a troll group to sway the election and somehow found this fertile ground of people willing to go along with what I had to say on public forums, tweets, facebook, ect...
We must dissent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwqN3Ur ... l=matsku84
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Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
When great weights are on the scales, it only takes one thumb's pressure to sway the balance.Robovski wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:50 am Yeah, he may have committed a crime but it was in the effort to reveal the bigger and deeper crime of the NSA against the American people.
"The russians skewed the election!'' if they did, they did it very easily and at minimal cost or resources. It's like I gathered a troll group to sway the election and somehow found this fertile ground of people willing to go along with what I had to say on public forums, tweets, facebook, ect...
Soviet Surplus discount election meddling is still election meddling.
"Believe me, there’s nothing so terrible that someone won’t support it."
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
— Un Lun Dun, China Mieville
Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
Strikes me as more of a modern day red scare than anything else.
"Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is fast enough."
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Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
So since during the "red scare" there were actual Soviet spies in the USA your saying that there is a certain amount of Russian meddling?
Yours Truly,
Allan Olley
"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill
Allan Olley
"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill
Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
Yeah. Probably more along the lines of fake news and the like than this fantasy people have of "hacking" the election.
"Black care rarely sits behind a rider whose pace is fast enough."
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Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
Well, Venona discovered a number of Soviet agents in America at the same time as the Red Scare, but McCarthy was going after pretty much anybody he didn't like.
Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
Indeed. The point of the Red Scare's McCarthyism isn't that there weren't legitimate enemies, it's that the threat of legitimate enemies was used to persecute and scapegoat innocent people.
Watch The Monsters are Due on Maple Street if you need an example.
Watch The Monsters are Due on Maple Street if you need an example.
Re: Young Woman Still Jailed Indefinitely for Whistleblowing the Russian Election Meddling
This was sort of my point, I mistakenly did not realize it was Admiral X's point. Hence the smiley face. Apologies...
Yours Truly,
Allan Olley
"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill
Allan Olley
"It is with philosophy as with religion : men marvel at the absurdity of other people's tenets, while exactly parallel absurdities remain in their own." John Stuart Mill