Four children arrested for not stopping a fight

[Draco Dracul]

The thing is that for the most part police don't actually stop crime. If you need police to save your life you're probably going to die.

In a society with a general respect for law and some level of enforcement against those who stray too far from it the existence of the police saves you from significantly reducing the probability of ending up in that situation.

We currently live in a country where cops steal more from people than all the burglars, and robbers combined.

[Madner Kami]

The thing is that for the most part police don't actually stop crime. If you need police to save your life you're probably going to die.

In a society with a general respect for law and some level of enforcement against those who stray too far from it the existence of the police saves you from significantly reducing the probability of ending up in that situation.

We currently live in a country where cops steal more from people than all the burglars, and robbers combined.

Note the qualifier:

In a society with a general respect for law and some level of enforcement against those who stray too far from it.

Riedquat is entirely correct in his assessment in every way.

[goodperson25]

The thing is that for the most part police don't actually stop crime. If you need police to save your life you're probably going to die.

In a society with a general respect for law and some level of enforcement against those who stray too far from it the existence of the police saves you from significantly reducing the probability of ending up in that situation.

We currently live in a country where cops steal more from people than all the burglars, and robbers combined.

Note the qualifier:

In a society with a general respect for law and some level of enforcement against those who stray too far from it.

Riedquat is entirely correct in his assessment in every way.

Note the rest of the quote.

the existence of the police saves you from significantly reducing the probability of ending up in that situation.

Situations such as what the US currently has being disqualified outright does not mean the underlying assessment is sound, the argument that the existence of something means something else (not sure how else to word that) is somewhat iffy territory logic wise. (I believe there's at least one misplaced word altering the meaning of that sentence, so that's fun)

Terms used like Police and Law also have meaning to us, even if we are only talking about hypothetical societies.

[CharlesPhipps]

A SWAT team saved a little girl and woman from their homicidal drugged up husband who was going to kill them both on my home street.

I accede the necessity of the police in a state with laws. I do not accede the necessity that this was anything other than police brutality, overreach, and racism.

After all, a TEACHER is meant to break up fights and the arrested kids weren't involved.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Cops just took more than burglars, and not other types of crime combined.

[CharlesPhipps]

Cops just took more than burglars, and not other types of crime combined.

I mean, as defenses go, that is spectacularly shitty.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Cops just took more than burglars, and not other types of crime combined.

I mean, as defenses go, that is spectacularly shitty.

It's not a defense. Burglars are probably the most handcrafted of the jobs on the list. Cops seizing assets is less than half of the general theft types.

[goodperson25]

Cops just took more than burglars, and not other types of crime combined.

I mean, as defenses go, that is spectacularly shitty.

It's not a defense. Burglars are probably the most handcrafted of the jobs on the list. Cops seizing assets is less than half of the general theft types.

1. You knowingly or unknowingly removed robbery from the conversation which iirc does add up with the numbers.
2. As defenses go that is spectacularly shitty.
3. If we're broadening to general theft instead of robberies, burglaries and civil asset forfeiture, we should also look at other legal and/or unreported/uninvestigated thefts as well. I wonder how well the Cops look if we include those statistics?

[Draco Dracul]

3. If we're broadening to general theft instead of robberies, burglaries and civil asset forfeiture, we should also look at other legal and/or unreported/uninvestigated thefts as well. I wonder how well the Cops look if we include those statistics?

I mean cops kind of can't win with that one because if it's a little that means they are largely uneeded on that front , and if it's high then they are useless despite thier ridiculous levels of funding.

[sayla0079]

Did I read the date wrong on the website or did that happen in 2016?