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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:00 pm
stryke wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:58 amNever got this complaint. C'mon, do you really think they'd have presented it as a good thing? On a major US channel? Before the US as a whole went even more insane than usual? No chance. It would have just been A Man in the High Castle with a civil war reskin.
Eh,

I'm not so sure about it because it's only in fairly recent decades that people have started to treat the American Confederacy as something closer to the Nazis versus something more like Grey and Grey Morality. In the Eighties, you had North and South and Gods and Generals that basically treated the South as a bunch of larger than life romantic figures fighting to protect their way of life.

Indeed, Django Unchained got a huge amount of flack from many people for treating Southern plantation owners as the horrifying rapist monsters they were.

Is it wrong to think that we'd get, "They were wrong but had some good points" or that they'd probably have included some Scarlet O'Hara types? Let's face it, there was a massibe backlash to getting rid of statues celebrating Confederate generals--erected in the Sixties.
It's not even "fairly recent", it never stopped. Gods and Generals was 2003. In a lot of the South the "Lost Cause" lies never did stop getting taught in schools as history.
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There were attempts but the cry baby conservatives won't let it stop, and claim that freedom.
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hammerofglass wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:34 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:00 pm
stryke wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:58 amNever got this complaint. C'mon, do you really think they'd have presented it as a good thing? On a major US channel? Before the US as a whole went even more insane than usual? No chance. It would have just been A Man in the High Castle with a civil war reskin.
Eh,

I'm not so sure about it because it's only in fairly recent decades that people have started to treat the American Confederacy as something closer to the Nazis versus something more like Grey and Grey Morality. In the Eighties, you had North and South and Gods and Generals that basically treated the South as a bunch of larger than life romantic figures fighting to protect their way of life.

Indeed, Django Unchained got a huge amount of flack from many people for treating Southern plantation owners as the horrifying rapist monsters they were.

Is it wrong to think that we'd get, "They were wrong but had some good points" or that they'd probably have included some Scarlet O'Hara types? Let's face it, there was a massibe backlash to getting rid of statues celebrating Confederate generals--erected in the Sixties.
It's not even "fairly recent", it never stopped. Gods and Generals was 2003. In a lot of the South the "Lost Cause" lies never did stop getting taught in schools as history.
Reading 80's claremont and he references the Confederates quite a lot as 'rebels who fought authority'. He was not American so I think he liked the imagery and never really looked into... the truth. Still, great stuff he's writing. Just some aspects age terrible... like Kitty Pryde's two infamous gamer moments.
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