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Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 pm
by Yukaphile
Recently saw a comment on Quora that made me roll my eyes, because they claimed the Red Ribbon Army from Dragon Ball was based on the German Third Reich. I disagreed because I always tended to see more of the Red Army there, but it got me to thinking. Which does the organization resemble more, if you were to compare the two? For me, I'd say about 80% Soviets, 20% Nazis. I mean, the Galactic Empire is obviously probably 90% Nazis, leaving aside the small bits where Lucas took inspiration elsewhere. But that's me. What do you guys see in the evil army of Dragon Ball?
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:18 pm
by clearspira
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 pm
Recently saw a comment on Quora that made me roll my eyes, because they claimed the Red Ribbon Army from Dragon Ball was based on the German Third Reich. I disagreed because I always tended to see more of the Red Army there, but it got me to thinking. Which does the organization resemble more, if you were to compare the two? For me, I'd say about 80% Soviets, 20% Nazis. I mean, the Galactic Empire is obviously probably 90% Nazis, leaving aside the small bits where Lucas took inspiration elsewhere. But that's me. What do you guys see in the evil army of Dragon Ball?
The RRA is a hodgepodge of different groups. General Blue is OBVIOUSLY based on the Nazi's with his uniform and Aryan features, and General White is mostly Russian given the snow setting and his clothing. Then there is Ninja Murasaki and General Tao who are Japanese and Chinese. Major Metallitron is obviously the Terminator and Android 8 is Frankenstein. Colonel Silver I would say is far more Nazi in design than Russian, but has features of both.
Commander Red and Staff Officer Black don't seem to be based on anything.
Ergo I would say that the RRA is based on nothing and everything.
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:22 pm
by Yukaphile
Very true.
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:15 pm
by Jonathan101
One would have to find out what their unifying ideology was before we can really answer that question.
All we know for sure is that "make the leader taller" was a closely guarded secret.
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:05 pm
by Wargriffin
clearspira wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:18 pm
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 pm
Recently saw a comment on Quora that made me roll my eyes, because they claimed the Red Ribbon Army from Dragon Ball was based on the German Third Reich. I disagreed because I always tended to see more of the Red Army there, but it got me to thinking. Which does the organization resemble more, if you were to compare the two? For me, I'd say about 80% Soviets, 20% Nazis. I mean, the Galactic Empire is obviously probably 90% Nazis, leaving aside the small bits where Lucas took inspiration elsewhere. But that's me. What do you guys see in the evil army of Dragon Ball?
The RRA is a hodgepodge of different groups. General Blue is OBVIOUSLY based on the Nazi's with his uniform and Aryan features, and General White is mostly Russian given the snow setting and his clothing. Then there is Ninja Murasaki and General Tao who are Japanese and Chinese. Major Metallitron is obviously the Terminator and Android 8 is Frankenstein. Colonel Silver I would say is far more Nazi in design than Russian, but has features of both.
Commander Red and Staff Officer Black don't seem to be based on anything.
Ergo I would say that the RRA is based on nothing and everything.
Basically Their Cobra, their EVERY stereotypical bad guy in one organization
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:07 pm
by Mecha82
To be fair while Cobra is basically American born terrorist organization while RRA seems even more generic like it hasn't been based on anything from real life. Then again does RRA even need to be considered being based on either Nazis or Soviets. Has anyone asked Toriyama about this considering that he created RRA for DB.
Re: Does the RRA resemble the Nazis or Soviets more?
Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 6:11 pm
by clearspira
Mecha82 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 9:07 pm
To be fair while Cobra is basically American born terrorist organization while RRA seems even more generic like it hasn't been based on anything from real life. Then again does RRA even need to be considered being based on either Nazis or Soviets. Has anyone asked Toriyama about this considering that he created RRA for DB.
I belive he freely admits that he was making up the original dragonball as he went along.