Island of Lost Souls

[ChrisTheLovableJerk]

!https://sfdebris.com/videos/films/islandoflostsouls.php!

Hope Chuck will cover other classic horror films from this era. I confess the Legosi Dracula didn't impress me but the first two Frankenstein films really struck me.

It's a sad thing Richard Stanley's vision of the 96 film never came to pass, it probably would have been the definitive version had it not fallen apart (seriously, check out the documentary on it, it's great)

[Deledrius]

This was an interesting review! I had never seen this adaptation. As always, hearing about the context and behind-the-scenes information was quite fascinating.

To be honest, given Chuck's penchant for musical references, I was surprised to not hear any direct use or mention of Oingo Boingo's "No Spill Blood" given that it quotes this film directly, but perhaps it was too on-the-nose because of that; the musical selections do tend to come at things on a bit of a diagonal.

[Mindworm]

I would point out one mistake in the review. Chuck says the Nazis practised eugenics on those deemed racially inferior or sexually deviant. He's wrong in that, while the Nazis did practise eugenics on the above criteria they did also sterilise those they saw as habitual criminals, they sterilised and later killed off those suffering from psychiatric illnesses or who were disabled. The Lebensunwertes Leben programme of the mid to late '30s developed many of the techniques later used in Treblinka or Auschwitz. The first gas chambers (which were vans where the exhausts could be pumped into the rear cargo cabins where the victims were located) were filled with the disabled.

And Hitler got his views regarding "habitual criminals" and the disabled directly from the Fabian Society, the socialist club which so ardently championed eugenics twenty years earlier.

[Beastro]

I would point out one mistake in the review. Chuck says the Nazis practised eugenics on those deemed racially inferior or sexually deviant. He's wrong in that, while the Nazis did practise eugenics on the above criteria they did also sterilise those they saw as habitual criminals, they sterilised and later killed off those suffering from psychiatric illnesses or who were disabled. The Lebensunwertes Leben programme of the mid to late '30s developed many of the techniques later used in Treblinka or Auschwitz. The first gas chambers (which were vans where the exhausts could be pumped into the rear cargo cabins where the victims were located) were filled with the disabled.

And Hitler got his views regarding "habitual criminals" and the disabled directly from the Fabian Society, the socialist club which so ardently championed eugenics twenty years earlier.

Life unworthy of life

[Muzer]

Part 1 of this already seems to have disappeared from YouTube...

[SFDebris]

Try it now.

[Muzer]

Sorted, cheers

[Rocketboy1313]

"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).

The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.

The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.

[TGLS]

"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).

The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.

The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.

Isn't that the fate of all science fiction? Extremely prescient or dated the point of mockery.

[Muzer]

"Island" is one of those science fiction stories that is definitely part of the canon, but it is also one of those stories whose sci-fi aspects are so out of date that they just do not connect with audiences like they did at the time (the discussion about vivisection great illustration of the point).

The modern equivalent of this would be something more like Jurassic Park, island of monsters, man's hubris, fears of science run amok... but you know, science that still seems viable and realistic.

The stuff in "Island" is borderline sorcery.

Isn't that the fate of all science fiction? Extremely prescient or dated the point of mockery.

in the fullness of time, maybe; but for some works this inevitable end comes quicker than for others...