UK passing staunch gender bathroom law

[Draco Dracul]

People do realize that trans men also exist, right? Like if you're concerned about people making false claims to abuse women what's to stop a cis man to claim he's a trans man to get into the ladies room?

That's the interesting point of all this though innit. It's always transwomen who you hear complaining about not being let into women's changing rooms not the other way around.

But why is that? It goes back to what I was saying about rape. A woman knows that if she has the only vagina surrounded by twenty dicks then sooner or later, statistically, she will probably be in danger. But the lone dick surrounded by twenty vaginas is probably safe because most women do not rape men and even as a transwoman you still have your previous strength.

The more I read the arguments for letting men into women's bathrooms, the more I understand the terf movement. Because it really seems to me that we are trying to put 50% of the population at risk for the benefit of 1%.

What it mostly says is that the media doesn't care about trans men, while it sees trans women as lurid and dangerous. Trans men do complain about these bathroom laws and do want to be able to use the right restroom, it's that the media neither notices nor cares.

Also unless someone only socially transitions, which is fine, a trans woman won't have her previous strength unless she works super hard to maintain it because it's testosterone that allows men to easily build muscle mass and trans women often have lower testosterone levels than cis women.

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

The rate of detransitioning over all is one percent, and of those that detransition 9 out of 10 will do for reasons of social pressure, cost, or medical complications. People that transition and then find out they aren't trans are literally 1 in 1000 at the high end.

Also as a "boy" who played with dolls I had far, far more pressure to fit the common mold of masculinity than I did to be trans.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

I think overall this just ties into the quibble of self-conscious homophobia in accordance with gender norms, more particularly to do with the violation of gender norms than any overt sign of homosexuality of course.

Not to make it sound violative to political correctness, but securing masculinity or femininity is rather normal in the population to some observable extent, and probably a standard deviation also for what we don't see.

The inclusion of trans under the stigmatic umbrella next to sexuality isn't really transformative for aspects of self realization in an otherwise cis oriented mindset. Tomboys also aren't very exclusive to left or right.

[Captain Crimson]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition. My only advice would be total certainty, since we're not at the point of flawless sex change, yet. I have to admit, if we were, I'd transition just once out of curiosity. But I'd like to keep my options open in the rare event the stars align and I meet Ms. Right. Tch, like that's ever gonna happen!

But back on point, yeah, I think that's what's happening now. Not rising number of new trans people, just revelation that more transition than we think. And you know what? I'm also fine with that. I actually emphasize to how hard that life must be. For some people to think of you as a freak, which is messed up, and how hard the dating circuit must be. But I also wonder why we need to know what's going on in somebody's pants or their personal lives. Can't we just leave that a wondrous mystery?

My issue is woke is more often than now, when it comes to entertainment media, using poor writing as a means to try to call out trans problems, and that's never gonna be mainstream. If you can use allegory, then everyone can approach it on their terms. But the loud, vocal transtrenders online, where you can never have any truth, make it impossible to tell a good, subtle story that way.

Case in point, SJWs would call 50 First Dates transphobic. "Because we're meant to laugh at the trans man!" Actually, in the movie, his friends had no issues with him. They accepted him. Don't we wish we could have that in RL? It all depends on how you look at it.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition.

Coulda fooled me.

[Captain Crimson]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition.

Coulda fooled me.

Transtrenders aren't real trans, because they don't transition. And never will. Those who do, face very real challenges that need attention. And let me tell you that LGBT will never be mainstream, so why can't we make it subtle in entertainment media?

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition.

Coulda fooled me.

Transtrenders aren't real trans, because they don't transition. And never will. Those who do, face very real challenges that need attention. And let me tell you that LGBT will never be mainstream, so why can't we make it subtle in entertainment media?

I'll tell you why...

[Captain Crimson]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition.

Coulda fooled me.

Transtrenders aren't real trans, because they don't transition. And never will. Those who do, face very real challenges that need attention. And let me tell you that LGBT will never be mainstream, so why can't we make it subtle in entertainment media?

I'll tell you why...

Do they want to make money or not? I know the SJWs who buy don't care if a big corporation tanks, but for the IP itself, it's fine if they wanna market to a niche, but as I've said before, then they deflect to all sorts of reasons for why no one likes it - there's something wrong with YOU, you're a bigot, you're a monster, you're KKK, you're transphobic, all these blue checkmarks. And then they're shocked when it tanks. That kinda childishness drives away even those in the middle.

They want to market it to a niche, why can't they just keep their mouths shut instead of lashing out at the world? Because I think they underestimate just how small that niche is. We've seen this in recent years.

[Thebestoftherest]

The elephant in the room is that if you look into the stats, sex change reversal surgery is far more common than people like to admit. Problem is of course is that they can't, not really. Hormone blockers are one thing, replacing an appendage you've chopped off is another.

The saddest and most common story I have read tends to come from tomboys who as kids used to chop their hair short and wear trousers - and therefore MUST have been trans according to everyone around her and thus ended up in their opinion being brainwashed. Same for boys who like to play with dolls.

There is pressure among kids who do not fit into a box to take blockers now. Don't take it from me, take it from them.

And you know what? I have zero issues if someone chooses to transition.

Coulda fooled me.

Transtrenders aren't real trans, because they don't transition. And never will. Those who do, face very real challenges that need attention. And let me tell you that LGBT will never be mainstream, so why can't we make it subtle in entertainment media?

I'll tell you why...

Do they want to make money or not? I know the SJWs who buy don't care if a big corporation tanks, but for the IP itself, it's fine if they wanna market to a niche, but as I've said before, then they deflect to all sorts of reasons for why no one likes it - there's something wrong with YOU, you're a bigot, you're a monster, you're KKK, you're transphobic, all these blue checkmarks. And then they're shocked when it tanks. That kinda childishness drives away even those in the middle.

They want to market it to a niche, why can't they just keep their mouths shut instead of lashing out at the world? Because I think they underestimate just how small that niche is. We've seen this in recent years.

So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.

[Captain Crimson]

So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.

It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.

Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.

[Thebestoftherest]

So your argument boil down to "How dare this minority group try to get some attention, we need to have nothing more than white cis hetero and nothing else ever.' Even if it is niche isn't diversity the spice of life, or are you the bland man in Earth.

It boils down to corporate liars trying to claim they're marketing outside the niche and insulting anyone outside that niche. They wanna market to a minority group, go ahead, knock themselves out, but then they have to insult anyone who doesn't like it.

Corporate social justice is dishonest nomenclature. It's just deflection to get people not to look too closely at their bank accounts.

Or maybe with more people able to speak people can now talk with friends to back them up instead of whoever their stuck with in real life.