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Mickey_Rat15 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:35 pm
You made an ad hominem deflection from the question. Why should one give credence to a fallacious tactic?
The entire line of reasoning is fallacious and unworthy of respect, because the nature of the question biases the results. Asking it implies change carries risk without any being established and is designed to prey on people's ignorance, because that risk is based solely in stereotypes and bigotry rather than actual statistics. You can see the same pattern during desegregation efforts in the US, where white girls would get doctor's notes so they wouldn't have to share locker rooms with the "n***** women".
If we're actually looking at the problem honestly, simply put segregating bathrooms doesn't really make them any safer, and the danger actually comes from having communal bathrooms that must be easily accessible while in use at all. The logistics are a nightmare, but the true solution is to have more single-service bathrooms in these spaces so people who are prone to abuse can ensure privacy while they're vulnerable.
CmdrKing wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:42 pm
the true solution is to have more single-service bathrooms in these spaces so people who are prone to abuse can ensure privacy while they're vulnerable.
And strangely that happens to be what all unisex bathrooms I've encountered in reality look like.
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Yup. Funny enough though a cis friend of mine was the one to really go off about this when the original manufactured panics started with North Carolina’s bill. He described his middle school’s bathroom stalls not locking properly, so his bullies (he’s not a big dude even now and had his growth spurts late) would just follow him in there to assault him. So he spent several years planning his life around not having to use the bathroom at school.
Like, there are layers of false assumptions that lead to people assuming sex segregated bathrooms solve any problems whatsoever (that aggressive men are only a threat to women, that all men can fight off assaults from men, that someone determined to assault people will reliably be deterred by signage…) when really it’s only people’s own willingness to police one-another or for consequences to be enforced after the fact that might do so. And laws like this make the problem worse, by causing people to police one another over perceived femininity rather than perceived threatening behavior. And neither is an actual solution compared to to having actual locks for actual privacy.
