PIC: The End is the Beginning.

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The funny thing is I've rewatched Picard multiple times since then and gotten to enjoy it more each time.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:08 pm The funny thing is I've rewatched Picard multiple times since then and gotten to enjoy it more each time.
Why?
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I imagine knowing ahead that most of the more interesting plot threads and character beats will fizzle out makes it easier to enjoy the few that matter to the end.
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clearspira wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:59 pm
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:08 pm The funny thing is I've rewatched Picard multiple times since then and gotten to enjoy it more each time.
Why?
I think 90% of the problem show is that it is desperately lacking room to breathe. It feels like the second season of a show with the first season being its super-compact backstory. Now that I know all of it, I can appreciate the character bits.

The story is more interesting now that I can stop and examine what all the stuff was leading to.
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Does Elnor feel more or less useless on subsequent viewings?

Genuinely curious, because he seemed like he was introduced for a reason, and hopefully he'll matter in Season 2.
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Deledrius wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:47 am Does Elnor feel more or less useless on subsequent viewings?

Genuinely curious, because he seemed like he was introduced for a reason, and hopefully he'll matter in Season 2.
While he had a small role, chopping off heads while Picard disapproves was always hilarious.
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kingofmadcows wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:40 pm I'm just so disappointed at all the missed opportunities in the show. I never liked the whole Romulan supernova thing because it didn't make any sense. But since they've decided to make it canon, there was so much they could have done with it but they were just too lazy.
The problem isn't lazy creators, but consumers with low standards. You paid money to watch Picard, right? That's all the people behind the latest Trek wanted. Mission accomplished!

Roddenberry was a peculiar guy, but he clearly wanted more from Star Trek than merely to make money; he insisted on things that limited the marketability of the program and made some regions take it off the air. He wanted to convey a message, and as complex as our feelings about that message are, his creative work was about more than an attempt to monetize fandom.

Do you believe that's true about recent Trek products?
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Frustration wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:15 am He wanted to convey a message, and as complex as our feelings about that message are, his creative work was about more than an attempt to monetize fandom.

Do you believe that's true about recent Trek products?
I sincerely believe some of the folks working on it feel that way, but there are a lot of confounding factors preventing it from manifesting; some of the problem is that parts of the intentional creative work that is being done runs counter to core elements of the franchise. That's a choice that's being made, and objectively valid (which is fertile ground for disagreement among the fans).
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Frustration wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:15 am Do you believe that's true about recent Trek products?
I believe Sir Patrick Stewart made Star Trek: Picard as a way to comment on Brexit and other issues that were irritating him like hatred of immigration and poor treatment of refugees, which means that Picard is possibly THE most motivated by Trek ideals of tolerance.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:01 pm
Frustration wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:15 am Do you believe that's true about recent Trek products?
I believe Sir Patrick Stewart made Star Trek: Picard as a way to comment on Brexit and other issues that were irritating him like hatred of immigration and poor treatment of refugees, which means that Picard is possibly THE most motivated by Trek ideals of tolerance.
Tolerating that the elderly are action-heroes and should fight terrorists and black-ops groups?
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