Star Trek: Picard Season 2

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TOS combined great SF episodes with silly filler. I've yet to see Picard be SF at all, as opposed to space opera.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:11 am

6. I don't think Picard forgot his mother committed suicide or anything, though he may have forgotten letting her out.

Considering how young Picard was when his mother died he might have repressed the entire memory due to shock.
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sayla0079 wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:20 am
CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:11 am

6. I don't think Picard forgot his mother committed suicide or anything, though he may have forgotten letting her out.

Considering how young Picard was when his mother died he might have repressed the entire memory due to shock.
That's what happened to my mother when she went to her grandfather's viewing and saw his eyes move. She didn't remember until her sister told her during my grandfather's funeral.
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Exactly
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Frustration wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 7:57 pm TOS combined great SF episodes with silly filler. I've yet to see Picard be SF at all, as opposed to space opera.
The main character being a synth and all the implications surrounding the federation's ban on synth life was rather sci fi appropriate. Also Hugh and the agenda with humanizing the Borg victims was pretty vibrant.

The main dilemma of the story and also the backdrop of the fallout of the Romulan star which gets quite a bit of attention through the first half don't really gel for any sci fi purpose. Sort of the same issue with Dark Knight Rises by inspection of theme.
..What mirror universe?
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youtu.be/U3RBuVpwsFQ
"Secular blasphemy" is a perfect description for the show. :lol:
They have a good point that the show's writing and dialogue is ass; it sounds more like stick notes that were quickly inserted into a rudimentary dialogue, which fits to my theory that the show's transcript is literally the first draft. Why? I guess Paramount really wants their streaming service to be filled with content as fast as possible, quality be damned. And just like Mike pointed, the show is written with little regard to its continuity, with each previous plotline minimally playing a role in the next story. Most of the plot elements introduced are either dialed down, ignored or forgotten completely. I literally forgot that this happened in the show, and I think that the writers forgot as well:

youtu.be/PC5EmaBzWTM
I guess that Not!Laris forgot that she could have just taken control of Soong and use him to send his Borg Suicide Squad away from the vineyard, as I assume that she just couldn't order them to attack Jurati-Queen because she "assimilated" them to make sure Soong doesn't turn them against her. I assume this would be the only logical reason, since they get no special abilities after the "ass imilation", so mind control is the only reason she did that. I mean, she could have also taken control of the Borg-ified SWAT and end the fight in 2 minutes, though maybe the Borg modifications would have prevented her from doing that. But I guess the writers kind of forgot that Granny Laris could do that.
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 1:31 pm The main character being a synth and all the implications surrounding the federation's ban on synth life was rather sci fi appropriate.
The show has spent no time examining and exploring the issues raised, such as "Is the synth Picard the same person as the biological one?" and "Since synths are effectively immortal, what will the societal consequences be of a successful bio-synth personality duplication/transfer?" and "Synths are potentially much sturdier, stronger, have keener senses, have a greater range of senses, and faster than humans. What does it mean for a former human to gain the potential of superhumanity?"

It was an excuse to get rid of the brain disease plotline, and nothing more.

Because the show is written by idiots, who also don't understand or like science fiction.
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Yeah, just like Rich and Mike touched upon in the video above, I too have trouble understanding what a "synth" is in the show, because the writers don't bother clarifying anything.

Are they entirely biological? Or is only their brain biomechanical? Since they produce body fluids, how? Biological organs or synthetic devices? Since they're shown to be stronger and faster than humans, how different are they on the inside than the outside? Do they have mechanical joints? Or just regular joints with amino-acid proteins replaced by advanced polymers? Why do they bleed? Is it real biological blood or fake blood (colored red but when seen under microscope is just a bunch of machines)? At least one of Soong's androids from their secret planet had a mechanical eye, so are only the gold or white-faced synths mechanical like Data or are they more advanced then him? If they're nearly entirely biological, how do they connect to devices? Do they use a magical wire connected to the throat like Jurati connected to the Borg Queen or do they have some biological ports? Or maybe they're wireless? Do they have an internal power source or do they only get their energy from carbohydrates and fat (aka chips and ice cream)?

It seems that the showrunners only use the terms "synth" or "android" as a placeholder for whatever they want this week.
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It's more that they don't understand that the words have actual meanings, both in reality and in the fictional world.

Or, more plausibly, they just don't care.
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That's because it's not a technical term but generic parlance.

What is a synth? It is a synthetic person.

Presumably the unisex term for androids and gynoids.
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