Lower Decks Season 3

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MightyDavidson wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:13 am Well given how poorly the crew, aside from Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford of course, treated Mariner I'm curious how they're going to get her back on the Cerritos next season. I mean sure the end of today's episode makes it clear that Freeman would have her back, but I can't imagine Mariner actually wanting to go back.

For that matter I'm imagining the attitude of Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford to their fellow shipmates is liable to get a bit chilly. Not likely enough for them to join Mariner in the field of exoarcheology of course but one imagines many folks on the Cerritos will be getting the silent treatment ESPECIALLY Jennifer.
It's a good way of resetting Mariner's frostiness with the rest of the crew.
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CharlesPhipps wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:02 am
MightyDavidson wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:13 am Well given how poorly the crew, aside from Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford of course, treated Mariner I'm curious how they're going to get her back on the Cerritos next season. I mean sure the end of today's episode makes it clear that Freeman would have her back, but I can't imagine Mariner actually wanting to go back.

For that matter I'm imagining the attitude of Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford to their fellow shipmates is liable to get a bit chilly. Not likely enough for them to join Mariner in the field of exoarcheology of course but one imagines many folks on the Cerritos will be getting the silent treatment ESPECIALLY Jennifer.
It's a good way of resetting Mariner's frostiness with the rest of the crew.
Deservedly so too, given the circumstances. This time of course, Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford get to be frosty toward them with her.
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I was surprised about Jennifer. The show's been building her up all season, to have her burn that bridge so casually without even listening to Mariner about what happened makes me wonder why they bothered.
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hammerofglass wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 5:53 am I was surprised about Jennifer. The show's been building her up all season, to have her burn that bridge so casually without even listening to Mariner about what happened makes me wonder why they bothered.
I think a LOT of fans misinterpreted Jennifer to be a more important character than she was ever meant to be.

Also, they established early on that she was snooty and arrogant in the Redshirts episode as well as someone Mariner hated for being an ass.

It turns out, in fact, she was an ass as well as snooty and arrogant.
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The one thing I'm glad of was I saw a lot of talk that it would be Mariner's tendency to self distruct that would break off the relationship so it being Jennifer assuming the worst was an interesting swerve.

Also project swing by was blatantly only approved as good pr for the Admiral's actual pet project in his AI starship. Likely he knew the Breen were there already.
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stryke wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:57 am The one thing I'm glad of was I saw a lot of talk that it would be Mariner's tendency to self distruct that would break off the relationship so it being Jennifer assuming the worst was an interesting swerve.

Also project swing by was blatantly only approved as good pr for the Admiral's actual pet project in his AI starship. Likely he knew the Breen were there already.
I did think it was curious that the Breen were attacking only the one planet and not the other. Given the relative closeness of the two worlds, you'd think both would be under attack.
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It's kind of weird how much of this show is about the problems inherent in it's own contrived premise. Immediate family in the same chain of command in violation of all common sense causes issues; also water suspected to be wet.
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hammerofglass wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:19 am It's kind of weird how much of this show is about the problems inherent in it's own contrived premise. Immediate family in the same chain of command in violation of all common sense causes issues; also water suspected to be wet.
Although I have to asked, is it possible the Captain has issues that need to address.
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Thebestoftherest wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 1:54 pm
hammerofglass wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:19 am It's kind of weird how much of this show is about the problems inherent in it's own contrived premise. Immediate family in the same chain of command in violation of all common sense causes issues; also water suspected to be wet.
Although I have to asked, is it possible the Captain has issues that need to address.
Yes. Yes she does.
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So we're not talking about how "Project Fly By" is the mission-statement of Cerritos/Lower Decks aka "Second Contact" in the first place? You know, going where someone has gone before?

Freeman has no business being a captain, because she's wrathful, has a temper, is judgemental and prejudiced. That much has been clear since episode one. In other news, water is wet indeed.

Undermining what little progress Mariner has made by basically framing her to be what she was from the beginning is... bad. Are we trying to subvert expectations? Get her back and all be hunky-dory as a development-story for Freeman? Trying to break up the les/uni-bait that was Jennifer/Mariner by hooking her up with another les/uni-bait outside the troupe? Or just the show becoming painfully aware of what an utter asshat Mariner used to be and writing her out of the crew just as the character was beginning to show minimal signs of improvement? A reset-button? I dunno. It's dumb anyways and shows yet again everything that is wrong with the concept of the Cerritos. They have to be the loser-crew, otherwise the show has no raison d'etre, but they can't be the loser-crew because that would be uninteresting to watch. Ehn, whatever.
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