Are the X-Men a Poor Allegory for the Mistreatment of Minorities?
- BridgeConsoleMasher
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Re: Are the X-Men a Poor Allegory for the Mistreatment of Minorities?
Heh, yeah. Magneto is a postmodernist.
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Re: Are the X-Men a Poor Allegory for the Mistreatment of Minorities?
It doesn't help in the first x men movie atleast, he not written like magneto, he is written like Mister Sinster in a helmet.Winter wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:16 pmThis is what I mean, the "Cure" can be applied to a LOT of real world topics but it doesn't really fit any of them. It works in in a lot of different scenarios but is mainly talking about the ethics of using it on Mutants. Should it be used? Are mutants who wish to use it wrong for wanting to not have their powers or are mutants saying that nothing is wrong with any of them being insensitive and only really thinking about themselves.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:59 pmRight I don't believe I was speaking against such a point you might have been making. This dilemma though does fit quite well between that dynamic though, more so than the notion of a cure for homosexuality. The latter being commonplace regarded as rather more inhumane than something coded humans would exhibit.hammerofglass wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:03 pmEven for autism, the person who masks around neurotipical people so they leave them the hell alone but otherwise just goes about their day and the person who is completely non-verbal and requires assistance for everything are going to have very different opinions about acceptance vs a cure.BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 2:07 pmI think autism might be a more suitable allegory.Nobody700 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 11:11 pm Okay so genuine thing... in a recent X-Men book, Mirage (an X-Men character) finds out her speeches of 'you are beautiful on the inside' fail when a mutant DOES hate their body because they look like garbage. Literal garbage. She admits that all her speeches of 'don't change who you are' fail when someone so radically hates what their body is and wants to change it... and a trans friend of her says yeah, people do that.
So I think the cure is a metaphor for curing homosexuality via shock therapy becomes muddled when you realize it can also be a metaphor for changing your body to fit who you believe you should be.
And again there's the issue of turning the cure into a weapon and thus creating the means to force all mutants to be "Normal". But at the same time there are mutants, like Magneto, who have declared war against all humans and the X-Men cannot be everywhere and there are few means to stop Mutants if they decide to fight against us.
There's also the hypocrisy of Magneto in the films, he talks about the rights of mutants yet he fights against his own kind and even plans to murder other mutants and even comes close to kill his best friend several times because they stand against him.
This honestly is such a fascinating idea and that it can be compared to real world topics is so interesting and likely was the intent of the creators.
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Re: Are the X-Men a Poor Allegory for the Mistreatment of Minorities?
I feel like narratives struggle that Magneto is a villain who is not wrong about the government and world.
Re: Are the X-Men a Poor Allegory for the Mistreatment of Minorities?
Yeah only one that seemed to get it right or closest to it was the 90s cartoonCharlesPhipps wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 1:52 am I feel like narratives struggle that Magneto is a villain who is not wrong about the government and world.