Another School Shooting, this time in Florida

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Not to make a joke out of it, but maybe it's the kids? School shootings isn't so much a thing in other places despite variable access to guns.
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Maybe there's something in the water.
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I honestly think it's a combination of the decline in discipline and the increasing complexity of socialization. I also can't help but think that something is preventing kids today from developing the emotional armor that I and others my age had as kids.
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The fact that I've been reading about kids getting punished for not wanting to participate in a school sanctioned walk out tells me of deeper problems with schools
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Admiral X wrote:I honestly think it's a combination of the decline in discipline and the increasing complexity of socialization. I also can't help but think that something is preventing kids today from developing the emotional armor that I and others my age had as kids.
The internet acts as both a buffer and a amplifier of socialization depending on the person. It allows people to act like asshole in ways they never would in anyway in real life, even joking with friends while tormenting the more neurotic over what is said and not said that can lead to girls developing eating disorders and such due to the structure of social media sites, how they operate almost as a catwalk for people to put up pictures and instantly be rated and criticized or praised.

We are made to talk to faces, or at the very least, voices. Without that sociopathy begins to emerge or people use their imagination to fill in blanks, and as I can attest to having long fought depression and anxiety, very few real things in life can compare to the worse case scenarios we conjure up when we worry vainly grasping for social information that isn't there.
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The other side is the internet has opened the world up and made in tiny to us. We can access information on a level humanity has never seen before. We can connect to like minded people all at the same time yet are disconnected. Love it or hate it, we can get news almost instantly the moment it's streaming or tweeted. It's changed the dynamics of politics and have even attributed to uprisings and riots. On the pro side, it has made us aware of problems when dealing with laws that are not in our best interest and made us aware of bad business practices. Companies have become more reliant on social media and the internet where they fear bad PR and whoever controls the information of the internet can greatly control how people get their information or not.

Of course back to this subject. One might say the internet is a pandora's box where anyone of sound mind or not can access information that may or may not influence them in a positive or negative way. I sorta believe that but I also believe that regardless of who influences us, we make our own choices. If I see a video of a guy who lights himself on fire, I am not going to try that because I am not a dumb ass.
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Going back to other countries, the UK saw a spike in gun crimes immediately following their 1997 handgun ban and even to this day have begun regulating ingredients that makes acid but that has not stopped London from being the acid attack capital of the world vs where none of that has happened anywhere in America.
Funnily enough, since then we've seen a massive decrease in school shootings. Why is that I ask myself? Maybe because when we saw kids been shot dead in school we did something about it, unlike America where school shootings are treated as a matter of daily life.
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unknownsample wrote:
Going back to other countries, the UK saw a spike in gun crimes immediately following their 1997 handgun ban and even to this day have begun regulating ingredients that makes acid but that has not stopped London from being the acid attack capital of the world vs where none of that has happened anywhere in America.
Funnily enough, since then we've seen a massive decrease in school shootings. Why is that I ask myself? Maybe because when we saw kids been shot dead in school we did something about it, unlike America where school shootings are treated as a matter of daily life.
But the problem is your solution has become worse than the problem. It's gotten so bad in the UK, people under ID can't buy fucking plastic knives at the store. A butter knife is considered a deadly weapon. You got people who are now anti-knife and saying there's a knife culture in England with drop boxes to turn in your illegal knives.

You don't address the social problems and went straight for things. Objects that didn't do anything. You can't even speak your mind in the UK now without it being a thought crime. How's that progressive?
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But the problem is your solution has become worse than the problem. It's gotten so bad in the UK, people under ID can't buy fucking plastic knives at the store. A butter knife is considered a deadly weapon. You got people who are now anti-knife and saying there's a knife culture in England with drop boxes to turn in your illegal knives.

You don't address the social problems and went straight for things. Objects that didn't do anything. You can't even speak your mind in the UK now without it being a thought crime. How's that progressive?
You have no fucking idea about life in my country. Oh and for the record speaking your mind isn't a thought crime here, if it was Katie Hopkins wouldn't have a media career. Oh and we still don't have school shootings.
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Watched some of the news coverage of the march today. They sound like they are more interested in venting their frustrations rather than trying to fix or address the issue. The worst part was a student ranting and raving about the NRA. You despise gun violence so of course you attack a bunch of responsible, law-abiding gun owners who have been known advocates of gun safety and awareness? That makes as much sense as attacking the Danes because you want to stop the Nazis.

Also, its kinda funny that no one sees the absurdity of it. You want to use laws to keeps guns away from people who are experts at bypassing laws and evading detection? It's like putting some in a safe to keep it away from a safe-cracker, kinda defeats the whole point doesn't it?
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