What would be a good review to show to get somebody interested in Sfdebris?

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The question that has been asked about so many Star Trek episodes in every corner of the internet is now being asked about Chuck's reviews.

The circle is complete.
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Probably some of the movies, just because they're more stand alone and don't rely as much on the running gags/character portrayals that Chuck ultimately ends up giving a lot of the Trek cast.

If you gotta go Trek, Wrath of Khan is a good one as it shows the amount of thought and research Chuck can do. Really, just pick out some of the 10/10 episodes, Chuck's enthusiasm just really shows through on those.

Possibly the Modoka episodes if they're anime fans.
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The Wrath of Khan review. It was incredibly dense and detailed and with very little, um... I'm gonna call it "pseudo-juvenile" humor like, say, about the Borg preparing to rape the Enterprise in the "Best of Both Worlds" review which, while I found funny, I could see how some might find insensitive.
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nebagram wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:05 pm If your friend is a Whovian, any of the Lost episodes videos. Even the BBC haven't produced anything that in-depth on the topic.
Speaking of this what happened to his reviews of The Reign Of Terror and The Crusade?
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If you're going for funny, you can't go wrong with his anime reviews; the Madoka Magica series especially. I still chuckle when I hear the phrase, "Bunnycat's a dick."
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I'd pick a TOS video and go with what you know of him to pick which one to start him on.
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If you wanna Market SFDebris specifically to Anime fans I'd say start with his Madoka reviews or maybe War in the Pocket.

But do NOT let his Eva stuff be any Anime fans first exposure to him however, they will be unintentionally offended by those.
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MithrandirOlorin wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:02 pm If you wanna Market SFDebris specifically to Anime fans I'd say start with his Madoka reviews or maybe War in the Pocket.

But do NOT let his Eva stuff be any Anime fans first exposure to him however, they will be unintentionally offended by those.
The problem with the Eva reviews is twofold.

1. He went into them cold (post Gundam/Pacific Rim, he would have had a much better grounding in what is being taken apart).
2. They'd given him the movies (1 isn't too different from the T.V. Series, but the pacing seems to be off. 2.00 is interesting, but it's riffing on stuff he's never seen). He actually kinda liked 2.00, but you could tell just how lost he was. The movies are not really a substitute for the TV series.

By comparison, MM has him follow the show, which makes finding the seams of deconstruction much easier. Chuck had never seen say Sailor Moon or Card Captor Sakura, but he CAN tell when a TV show is building to something (Eva 1.00 doesn't have that feeling from the first 6 episodes, it just looks better).

Plus, having done quite a few shows now, he does pick up on some things pretty readily (like exactly where Kyoko was coming from in her introduction scene).
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K.E. Schwartze wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:59 am
MithrandirOlorin wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:02 pm If you wanna Market SFDebris specifically to Anime fans I'd say start with his Madoka reviews or maybe War in the Pocket.

But do NOT let his Eva stuff be any Anime fans first exposure to him however, they will be unintentionally offended by those.
The problem with the Eva reviews is twofold.

1. He went into them cold (post Gundam/Pacific Rim, he would have had a much better grounding in what is being taken apart).
2. They'd given him the movies (1 isn't too different from the T.V. Series, but the pacing seems to be off. 2.00 is interesting, but it's riffing on stuff he's never seen). He actually kinda liked 2.00, but you could tell just how lost he was. The movies are not really a substitute for the TV series.

By comparison, MM has him follow the show, which makes finding the seams of deconstruction much easier. Chuck had never seen say Sailor Moon or Card Captor Sakura, but he CAN tell when a TV show is building to something (Eva 1.00 doesn't have that feeling from the first 6 episodes, it just looks better).

Plus, having done quite a few shows now, he does pick up on some things pretty readily (like exactly where Kyoko was coming from in her introduction scene).
I don't view Madoka a deconstruction which is why I'm glad Chuck's perspective if as an outsider, and that he actually argues it's not that Dark.

The discussion of Madoka within the Anime community has become so polarized. Fans of traditional Magical Girls shows who feel it and it's imitators are some insult to the genre. Magical Girls fans like me who see it as an important growth for the genre. And the alleged existence of people who like it because they hate normal Magical Girl shows.

Chuck just reviews it as a show, without concern for how it related to anything else. And that perspective is important for some shows.

But not for Eva, Eva is a dates show you only should ever watch because of it's important to other Anime. On it's own it doesn't hold up.
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ORCACommander wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:03 pm tried the mass effect review. the result was not positive
You picked the review of one of the most subjective subjects... a Role playing game.

Hell when it came out most people gave Chuck hell for killing Wrex just to keep the gag of everything Shiva Shepard touches dies!


Anyway...

Good review where you want people to see Chuck at his most insightful... probably any of the 10 out of 10 reviews

but honestly I thinka good intro would be a middle of the road review why he is beign fair to the episodes strengths and harsh on its flaws.

I'm kinda partial toward "Parallels"
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