American Muslims Pretty Darn Tolerant of Homosexuality

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American Muslims Pretty Darn Tolerant of Homosexuality

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And so were the European Muslims before they became >1% of the population.
Look how that turned out...
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Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
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Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
You have a tendency to resort to straw men pretty early on.
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:49 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
You have a tendency to resort to straw men pretty early on.
I've found that, like Trump, Wilders is impossible to strawman because whatever I say to parody him he'll say something even crazier soon.
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That is encouraging, and what is more encouraging is that these are frequently more recent immigrants. I wonder what the difference on this between American muslims and, say, British muslims comes from. Muslims coming to pretty similar countries are having very different views on the tolerance of homosexuality.
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Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:12 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:49 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
You have a tendency to resort to straw men pretty early on.
I've found that, like Trump, Wilders is impossible to strawman because whatever I say to parody him he'll say something even crazier soon.
If this is parody and not really meant to be taken seriously, never mind,
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Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
Hey, Geert Wilders is Dutch. Those articals are Muslims in the US.

Meanwhile in the Netherlands:
"Fury as watchdog says it's OK to send gay people death threats – but only if you're Muslim"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/73 ... ats-Muslim
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Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:18 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:12 pm
Darth Wedgius wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:49 pm
Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:54 pm Yeah, surprising thing about people, they don't conform to stereotypes.

But of course that doesn't fit in a sound bite, so scum like Geert Wilders keep using naked racism like "Their culture isn't as progressive as ours, therefore they're all cartoonishly medieval scum!" or whatever other hysterical xenophobia that buffoon likes to trot out. Hopefully that'll change soon, though.
You have a tendency to resort to straw men pretty early on.
I've found that, like Trump, Wilders is impossible to strawman because whatever I say to parody him he'll say something even crazier soon.
If this is parody and not really meant to be taken seriously, never mind,
I don't have time to search actual Geert Wilders quotes, but I think I paraphrased his rhetoric pretty well there.

He's a big fan of cultural imperialism and cultural determinism, much like Trump and the "protagonist" of Star Trek: Discovershit (no, I have neither forgiven nor forgotten that time that MIchael Burnham said that the Klingons "only understand violence" as if she were some alt-right crazy person ranting about "the Muslims" and advocating for nuking Iran on the Internet).
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Worffan101 wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:22 pm I don't have time to search actual Geert Wilders quotes, but I think I paraphrased his rhetoric pretty well there.

He's a big fan of cultural imperialism and cultural determinism, much like Trump and the "protagonist" of Star Trek: Discovershit (no, I have neither forgiven nor forgotten that time that MIchael Burnham said that the Klingons "only understand violence" as if she were some alt-right crazy person ranting about "the Muslims" and advocating for nuking Iran on the Internet).
Every bleeding heart liberal European judge that let's a Muslim immigrant get away with rape because "they don't know any better" or "that's the culture they were raised in" reinforces the concept of cultural determinism.
The absence of cultural RELATIVISM is what separates Geert and those like him from the leftists. Kinda hard to say it's imperialism when you want your local culture to be enforced locally. I guess the indigenous Europeans don't deserve to preserve their culture or homeland.
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