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Jonathan101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:25 pmExcept that neither side was able to think out of that very narrow box they insisted on looking through, plus for some reason the laws of physics decided to take a day off (you don't need fuel in space- there is no friction in space).
Actually there is friction in space. It's tiny and almost incomprehensibly negligable, but it is there, as you can find about 1 atom of matter per squarecentimeter in space. Considerably more though if you begin getting closer into a solar system or even around planets (that is actually something that needs to be accounted for by stuff like the ISS). Also, there's, for lack of a better word, drag by gravitational forces. But those also can be mostly ignored unless you are closer to a celestial object.
But, to make a less facitious comment, you do need fuel (in terms of propellant) in space to propel an object, unless your technology allows you to annihilate and create space around your ship, warp space or utilizes artificial gravity to propel you by gravitational pull and even then you still need fuel to create the energy for those drives.
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Worffan101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:33 am
It comes off as the young female protagonist being easily seduced by the planet-slaughtering supervillain because he's supposedly handsome (I don't think Adam Driver's all that good-looking, but what do I know?).
Then again this is a movie where the Empire never uses their hyperdrives to warp-jump ahead of the Rebels because Rian Johnson is incapable of imagining the sort of setup that nuBSG had as their FIRST. REGULAR. EPISODE.
At its core, TLJ's problem is bad writing and just plain bad filmmaking by the writing team and Rian Johnson. Even the second unit barely delivered.
I don't think it comes off like that. We touched upon this in the other thread, but she has her own stakes in the conflict and it's never a matter of her being swayed or coerced. There's no romantic or illustrious inclinations between them at all, and she outright refuses him after they prevail from Snoke's guards.
Worffan101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:33 am
It comes off as the young female protagonist being easily seduced by the planet-slaughtering supervillain because he's supposedly handsome (I don't think Adam Driver's all that good-looking, but what do I know?).
Then again this is a movie where the Empire never uses their hyperdrives to warp-jump ahead of the Rebels because Rian Johnson is incapable of imagining the sort of setup that nuBSG had as their FIRST. REGULAR. EPISODE.
At its core, TLJ's problem is bad writing and just plain bad filmmaking by the writing team and Rian Johnson. Even the second unit barely delivered.
I don't think it comes off like that. We touched upon this in the other thread, but she has her own stakes in the conflict and it's never a matter of her being swayed or coerced. There's no romantic or illustrious inclinations between them at all, and she outright refuses him after they prevail from Snoke's guards.
That's not really how their dream meeting scenes are shot.
Worffan101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:33 am
It comes off as the young female protagonist being easily seduced by the planet-slaughtering supervillain because he's supposedly handsome (I don't think Adam Driver's all that good-looking, but what do I know?).
Then again this is a movie where the Empire never uses their hyperdrives to warp-jump ahead of the Rebels because Rian Johnson is incapable of imagining the sort of setup that nuBSG had as their FIRST. REGULAR. EPISODE.
At its core, TLJ's problem is bad writing and just plain bad filmmaking by the writing team and Rian Johnson. Even the second unit barely delivered.
I don't think it comes off like that. We touched upon this in the other thread, but she has her own stakes in the conflict and it's never a matter of her being swayed or coerced. There's no romantic or illustrious inclinations between them at all, and she outright refuses him after they prevail from Snoke's guards.
That's not really how their dream meeting scenes are shot.
Yeah I don't think it's suggestive of romantic subtext. Both of them were rather off put by it for one thing.
Jonathan101 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:25 pmExcept that neither side was able to think out of that very narrow box they insisted on looking through, plus for some reason the laws of physics decided to take a day off (you don't need fuel in space- there is no friction in space).
Actually there is friction in space. It's tiny and almost incomprehensibly negligable, but it is there, as you can find about 1 atom of matter per squarecentimeter in space. Considerably more though if you begin getting closer into a solar system or even around planets (that is actually something that needs to be accounted for by stuff like the ISS). Also, there's, for lack of a better word, drag by gravitational forces. But those also can be mostly ignored unless you are closer to a celestial object.
But, to make a less facitious comment, you do need fuel (in terms of propellant) in space to propel an object, unless your technology allows you to annihilate and create space around your ship, warp space or utilizes artificial gravity to propel you by gravitational pull and even then you still need fuel to create the energy for those drives.
Okay, I should have been more exact- you don't need fuel in space in the way the movie portrays it (I was just rushing out the door when I wrote that, in my defence).