Star Trek Discovery season 2 megathread

[Zoinksberg]

You know, I was watching Trials and Tribble-ations last night with my daughter and one of Dax's lines really stuck out to me. She was caressing her tricorder and commenting on how much she loves mid-23rd century aesthetics. It reminded me why I hate the people who made Discovery more than I dislike the show itself.

In Star Trek the mid-23rd century has an aesthetic. You don't have to like it, but it exists. As does the mid-22nd century, late-23rd century, and the mid-24th century. So when the Discovery team decided to set their show in that time they said "nah, we will create our own aesthetic". They decided they didn't want that look, not "futuristic" enough (I guarantee when we get to the 23rd century it will look like neither TOS or STD, so that's a pretty dumb thing to say, IMO) but they still wanted to set it in that time. They didn't have to set it in that time, late-24th century is an open book for them to create, but they didn't care at all.

To me, the show feels like someone wanted to create a WWI show with a Vietnam vibe, so they include helicopters and a Buffalo Springfield soundtrack. Everyone would say "if you want to make a Vietnam movie that bad, make a Vietnam movie instead of some weird mashup." Well, if you want to make a more futuristic Trek, then go in to Trek's future.

[Karha of Honor]

If you think this takes place in the Prime Universe, then you're just not paying attention. The look, the atmosphere, the uniforms... it might work if it was a century prior to TOS, but it's not. Hell, even Enterprise was a more faithful prequel, as scary as that is.

The look, it could be just fashion. i could see people getting tired of touchscreens IRL for example.

The atmosphere? What do you mean? Every starship crew experiences their time differently.

[Worffan101]

Saw the premiere.

Likes: Pike (easily the best character and Mount's having a ball), less Burnham shilling from other characters, less grimderp. Clear attempt to whitewash Season 1 away and forget about it. Better special effects (marginally).

Ambivalent: Tig Notaro. Character concept is a politically-correct Valu-Pak (as Chuck once put it in a different context) and frustratingly doesn't really fit in to a Trek setting (why would Starfleet recruit someone with a disability and not get them OUT of the wheelchair with advanced medical science?). However, she's better than Burnham.

Dislikes:
--Cringey and inept comedy.
--Burnham is still a charisma vacuum.
--Tilly is poorly written and cringey.
--Patented Alex Kurtzman lazy ripoffs of better stuff done better elsewhere. This time he's ripping off Into Darkness, so we're getting the reprocessed runoff of the least shit scenes in a shit movie. Yay.
--Sarek's actor is easily the worst Vulcan I've ever seen.
--Not sold on Emo Spock.
--There's a character who exists solely to be a jackass to Burnham and then be killed soon afterwards to show that the show is Progressive (tm) and The Minority Female Is Correct because the people who made this think we're fucking idiots and that we're hypersensitive caricatures who'll get upset if they insinuate that people who aren't straight white dudes can be wrong.

STD season 2 is like "Justice League". They lazily grafted a shallow ripoff of MCU comedy as understood by living creative black hole Alex Kurtzman onto a shitty grimderp mess, and it shows.

3/10.

[Madner Kami]

Well, I am already tired of touchscreens. There's a place for where they make sense, like where a graphical interface gives you access to information or information-processing that you can't have otherwise or, if there is no room for a mechanical interface (e.g. mobile devices). Where a touchscreen utterly fails though is, blind-interfacing (no haptic feedback) and speed-based interfacing (hacking in numbers and letters is just a painful chore with touchscreens). I could see that somebody at some point actually catches on to these problems (blind-interfacing is not just an issue for people who can't see, just think about how you use your keyboard; unless you are using the two-finger-eagle-system, you are quite likely typing blind; try that with a touchscreen...) and switches these things back to a simple mechanical interface. However, you don't switch from holographic viewscreens back to old styled 2D LED. I can't imagine a sensible reason for that.

[Enterprising]

Discovery Season 2 discussion...

Episode 1 was enjoyable, but...

Why couldn't the guy who came with Pike obey orders ?

Because the lesson of the episode is if you don't listen to Burnham, you die. It's almost certainly going to replace the redshirts.

[Karha of Honor]

--There's a character who exists solely to be a jackass to Burnham and then be killed soon afterwards to show that the show is Progressive (tm) and The Minority Female Is Correct because the people who made this think we're fucking idiots and that we're hypersensitive caricatures who'll get upset if they insinuate that people who aren't straight white dudes can be wrong.

Caricatures... That is complicated.

The criticsphere and progressive blogoshphere is certainly hypersensitive right now.



USS Hiawatha is named after...?

[Yukaphile]

Seriously? They're gonna kill off the guy who disagrees with the black woman? Okay, I'm as bleeding heart liberal as you can get... and even I find that repulsive. Yes, black people face institutional racism, but... this isn't right. No wonder SJWs are so hated.

Emo Spock?! WTF?! OMG they're killing Star Trek! KILLING IT!

[Madner Kami]

USS Hiawatha is named after...?

Is this a serious question? Just in case it is: Hiawatha is bascially the founder of the Iroquois Confederacy, along with Deganawida and Jigonhsasee. You know, the guys whose concepts of government the US' Articles of Confederation and the Constitution are partially based on.

[Karha of Honor]

Seriously? They're gonna kill off the guy who disagrees with the black woman? Okay, I'm as bleeding heart liberal as you can get... and even I find that repulsive.

[Yukaphile]

Purity progressives and SJWs. OMG...