Star Trek (TNG): Schisms

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Now out at http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/t231.php
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Woman number 2. Agree with Chuck, that having a random person having the experiences was a good touch (and apparently not even a Starfleet gold-shirt!) , but could't they give her a name in the show? Her job? Similar point that the ensign Riker rescues is the one piloting the ship earlier, but at least we learn her name.

Data, the poetry section. Why? Teasing out the situation is always a good idea, but it just feels tacked on. And he's also abducted by the aliens, who are sophisticated enough to wipe his memory. Shouldn't he have been in on the briefing, or at least examined by Crusher? I'd want to know if the strongest, fastest crewmember had the slightest chance of being compromised.

Basic safety and security, Picard really should get some kind of text alert if someone on his ship disappears. Though maybe Janeway would just assume that they've gone awol and takes them back for lashings and keelhauling.

Overall, got to agree, good episode, but it could have been better.
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A having the computer state when someone goes missing would imply that it's keeping constant tabs on the location of all crew members. Makes sense to me that it wouldn't be set up to do that by default, whether for reasons of personal privacy, or saving power, of something else.

If someone had used the transporter unauthorized, or if an airlock had popped open, or something like that, I'm sure someone on the bridge would've been notified. But people just magically vanishing is an uncommon enough problem that it makes sense you'd have to run a scan to find out.

It's probably at the Captain's discretion how the internal sensors are set up. Picard prefers not to know anything about his crew that isn't directly related to ship performance. Janeway scans them constantly at maximum power, just to see what new and interesting tumors they can grow.
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While keeping exact tabs on everyone is probably a privacy violation, you'd think something like a passive lifesigns scan would be standard, that way medical personnel could be alerted to emergencies as they happen.

And on the Voyager brain scans issue - as scary as that is, remember it's a military ship in an organisation that frequently encounters anomalies and is stranded far from reinforcements/help so having a record of the crew's brains on file is handy for putting the crew back together after the inevitable quantum bullshit/transporter accident/etc they'll encounter whereas Red Dwarf which is a civilian mining ship that wasn't intended to leave the solar system also keeps a constant record of the crew's brains for the explicit practice of bringing them back as holograms just so they can keep working.

Edit: thinking about it, maybe that's where Janeway got the idea from - one day she walked in on Tom Paris when he was watching a Red Dwarf marathon and thought "Hey, that's a neat idea, maybe I should record everyone's brains. And then when they die I can put their minds into my warrior cobalt tarantulas so I don't have to bother training the critters. Now how to bump them off without arousing suspicion...Mr Paris, set course for Borg space, and take the long way around, right through Vadian space. Chop chop!"

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The "quit hovering over me" sketch was hilarious.
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Dînadan wrote:Edit: thinking about it, maybe that's where Janeway got the idea from - one day she walked in on Tom Paris when he was watching a Red Dwarf marathon and thought "Hey, that's a neat idea, maybe I should record everyone's brains. And then when they die I can put their minds into my warrior cobalt tarantulas so I don't have to bother training the critters. Now how to bump them off without arousing suspicion...Mr Paris, set course for Borg space, and take the long way around, right through Vadian space. Chop chop!"

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Before I started watched SFDebris, I liked Janeway.

Now, after watching Chuck's Voyager reviews.... I like her EVEN MORE.
Rocketboy1313 wrote:The "quit hovering over me" sketch was hilarious.
It most certainly was.
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Before I started watched SFDebris, I liked Janeway.

Now, after watching Chuck's Voyager reviews.... I like her EVEN MORE.
I think he sums it up best with "I love Janeway, she's my favourite villain!"
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I thought this was a very creepy episode but I agree it could have been even better if they had done a few things differently, like not showing us the aliens' faces right away. Even so, I would have liked to see them again at some point. Although given what became of the Borg on Voyager, maybe it's best we never saw them again.
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J!! wrote: If someone had used the transporter unauthorized, or if an airlock had popped open, or something like that, I'm sure someone on the bridge would've been notified. But people just magically vanishing is an uncommon enough problem that it makes sense you'd have to run a scan to find out.
I dunno about that, it's not just in this episode that the Computer doesn't inform the crew of pertinent information until asked. I could see how in THIS episode it's the case, given they don't know there's a problem until just now (even though I'd think at least having a "notify the captain or XO if the number of personnel on this ship is suddenly not what it's supposed to be" alert would be helpful) but when there's someone loose on the ship? When they're trying to keep someone under arrest? They seem to keep getting all the way to, and sometimes out of, the cargo bay before anyone is notified and that's when they SHOULD be keeping tabs.

Although early on in The Neutral Zone they made sure to tell you they do NOT believe in having locks on this ship! Which just seems the slightest bit naive for a military-esque vessel with things that can explode.

As for this episode, I really like this one. "Something's wrong but it's hard to say what" mysteries tend to be my favorites on TNG.
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rickgriffin wrote: Although early on in The Neutral Zone they made sure to tell you they do NOT believe in having locks on this ship! Which just seems the slightest bit naive for a military-esque vessel with things that can explode.
Oh come on, they're all in Starfleet, they know where they are and are not supposed to go. It's not like there's a bunch of civilians or children running around the ship or something.
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J!! wrote:
rickgriffin wrote: Although early on in The Neutral Zone they made sure to tell you they do NOT believe in having locks on this ship! Which just seems the slightest bit naive for a military-esque vessel with things that can explode.
Oh come on, they're all in Starfleet, they know where they are and are not supposed to go. It's not like there's a bunch of civilians or children running around the ship or something.
And it's not as if the Romulans or Cardassians would be so underhanded as to send undercover agents on board.
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