Egg Boy

[Yukaphile]

I don't think what egg boy did was assault, though if you're going to claim he did, then surely you must agree the response was just an escalation and severely disproportionate. And I HATE that.

[Antiboyscout]

How many times do I have to go over the definition of Free Speech with you?
It's about protecting you from being silenced by the government.

No it really isn't. Free speech as a philosophy applies to everyone in both regards. How can you think it only means a government can't silence you?

How can something be immoral if a government does it but neutral or good if someone or something else does it?

[Beelzquill]

You really shouldn't break things on people and expect no retaliation. I don't think the senator reacted that badly but if they hadn't of been separated it could have escalated into something worse. It's still kind of hard to justify a grown man trying to actually beat up a kid though. Maybe one punch and then leave? I don't know if that is in anyway a plausible reaction in the heat of the moment so I'm kinda sympathetic to the guy without knowing his politics.

[Antiboyscout]

My travel budget is very limited, but I'd be willing to make an attempt if we find something feasible. How far do you live from Pennsylvania?

If a grown senator can't take a non-lethal egg to the face without screaming bloody murder and trying to beat the kid into a lower weight class, he needs to retire from politics or grow some spine and balls.

Hey, if throwing that egg is that kid's form of free speech, then remember, freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.

[Beelzquill]

He smashed the egg on him. He did not throw it.
As to whether this was assault, Since this happened in Melbourne I guess I'll use the Australian definition of assault I looked up in a quick google search.
https://lawhandbook.sa.gov.au/ch12s05s01s01.php

I'll quote it here if anyone cares,
"Assault occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted physical force used against a victim [s 20(1)(a)]. For example, punching, hitting or kicking a person. The force used can be direct or indirect. For example, if because of an assault, a person drops a child they were carrying, that is also an assault on the child – even though the child was not directly assaulted.

Assault also occurs if there is any intentional and unwanted direct or indirect contact with another person, however slight the contact may be, if the person committing the assault knew that the victim might reasonably object to the contact [s 20(1)(b)]. For example, it could be throwing a newspaper at someone, knowing the person might object to that.

Assault can occur even without physical contact. If a threat is made to apply force and the victim reasonably believes that the person can carry out the threat or there is a real possibility that they will [s 20(1)(c)]. For example, if a person points a gun at someone or produces a knife.

An assault can also occur when a person accosts (approaches and confronts aggressively) or impedes (blocks the way of) another in a threatening manner [s 20(1)(e)].

What is not considered assault

A distinction is made for behaviour that falls within the limits of what would be accepted as normal social interaction or community interaction. Such behaviour does not constitute assault.

Examples of such conduct include acts such as patting the shoulder of another person to attract their attention, or pushing between others in order to get out of a crowded bus. Although these acts involve intentional touching of another without their consent, provided they are committed in a non-hostile and inoffensive manner, they do not constitute assault.

In addition, any conduct that is justified or excused by law is not an assault."

Since I sincerely doubt smashing an egg on someone's head is legally excused by law, I think this technically would count as assault.

[Yukaphile]

And people can't even agree a grown-ass man beating up a kid is bad, and excessive retribution, even if the kid was no saint. Tch. I'm done.

[Admiral X]

Wonder how some of these people repeating the mantra of "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" would feel if they ended up on the other end of it. Wonder if they'd still be saying that.

[Madner Kami]

And people can't even agree a grown-ass man beating up a kid is bad, and excessive retribution, even if the kid was no saint. Tch. I'm done.

"Kid" is 17 years old and about as large as some of the police-officers escorting him away, after he got slapped in his face twice by the victim he just slapped flat on the back of his head with an egg in his hand.


youtu.be/pGuSpEt13Ac

I still do not think, that the Senator overreacted. It's exactly what I would have done in his position.

[Yukaphile]

He was 17? Oh okay. I still maintain this was excessive retribution, however.

[Draco Dracul]

This boy should be punished severely, what he did was assualt, unlike good right wing people that respectfully exercise their free speech by beating people with Tiki torches. /s