Poparena - my falling out

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Robovski wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:33 pm There is no principle. You are not owed a refund and stop harassing this creator.
1000% this.

That you gave someone money and now regret it is part of life. You sit here on the forum and go on and on about how this affects you. Do you want to guess how often he is thinking about you? Never.

And stop telling others that they are "disingenuous" just because they aren't siding with you. I don't even know if you realize that this thread is probably convincing more people that he was likely totally justified in his actions. Do you think we don't see how you act on this forum? That you can create drama at the drop of a hat from even the friendliest conversation? Do you think any of us are reading this as you being a perfect member of his community only to have done one thing accidentally and someone else blew it way out of proportion? Do you actually believe that was the only reason and that nothing else you had ever done contributed to your exile?

Yuka, I truly and genuinely believe you are a good person at the core. But nobody is required to be your friend or accept you in to their community. You donated money, it is gone. There was no contract, you are not owed a refund nor have much legal standing to force him to review the things you requested (and absolutely zero legal standing to try to stop him from reviewing anything). The regret you feel is yours and yours alone.

The money you gave away is gone, hopefully you will use it as a lesson is economics. The community you were kicked out of is gone, hopefully you will use it as an opportunity to reflect. None of it is coming back. Ever. This is like a breakup, you aren't owed a detailed explanation or that the other person's reasoning stand up to your own scrutiny, they said it is over and so it is. And like a breakup you can choose to allow the experience to poison further relationships, or you can accept what happened and just try to be better in the future. It's not too late to choose the latter.
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I do tend to think it's like clearspira had said, that when you contrast SF Debris and poparena, that the differences become like night and day, because I don't see him kicking someone off his Patreon over a misunderstanding, an old fan who'd been around since the beginning, and if he'd been having a problem with them, would've been mature enough to ask for space long before it reached that point. That just comes off as ungrateful, this person is giving you money, and you just kick them out?
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Running in circles in a hamster wheel.

Also, having my doubts in regards to being a good person at the core. Wanting to be one, maybe, but not wanting to burn down the bridges, but actually wanting to burn down the land left behind is not a sign of being a good person.
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It is kind of hard to dispute that given a lot of my feelings that I know are wrong, but have resisted in the past. I blame my biological father, personally. But just because we have those feelings doesn't mean we have to act on those. So why would I feel compelled to in this case? Because deep down, I miss that community, and can't go back, but if I can't be in it anymore, one thing I want, and don't want to yield on, is that I want my video requests to be ceased.
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Anyway, you guys can keep commenting here, but I'm letting it drop for now. Had my nightmare, it's passed, so... unless another one comes along. In which case, I'll report it. But if anyone's curious to know what it is, just ask. Unless not, this is officially being closed... for now. Unless something new pops up.
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I think he's clinically insane and should be brought into a mental hospital.
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:52 pm It is kind of hard to dispute that given a lot of my feelings that I know are wrong, but have resisted in the past. I blame my biological father, personally.
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Yukaphile wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:12 pm Anyway, you guys can keep commenting here, but I'm letting it drop for now. Had my nightmare, it's passed, so... unless another one comes along. In which case, I'll report it. But if anyone's curious to know what it is, just ask. Unless not, this is officially being closed... for now. Unless something new pops up.
What was the nightmare?
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I believe it was that I commented on his Twitter, which I see, but never once comment back, and then he blocked me all over again, so it was reliving that pain, and then I used some kind of weird, never-seen, not-real Twitter function to demand my money back via... that "I WANT MY MONEY BACK, BITCH!" Twitter function. That statement is hyperbole, that wasn't literally said, but more it was being hurt again and lashing out, basically.
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Hey, I wanna clear up a few misconceptions. My being part of the poparena community mainly amounted to, at best, tweeting to him on Twitter. Or posting a comment on his videos. That's it. It wasn't until he opened up a Discord that... yeah. Other than that, I wasn't constantly spamming him or whatever.
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