Are the Politics in the Star Wars Prequels Really That Bad?

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Note, where is it established that Naboo was refusing to pay a tariff of some kind? The opening crawl makes it sound like the Trade Federation is blockading Naboo in retaliation for them having to pay tariffs. IE, the big megacorporation is having a hissyfit that they're being taxed and having to pay fees.

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Point is, Republic enforcement of their space is so lackadaisical that they had to form an Army and Navy to get things done, because they overrelied on the Jedi,and defunded the Sector Rangers. This means that the Republic just didn't consider those who lived in the non-Core sectors a priority, even if they were Republic members.
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It might not had been malicious, maybe they just bit of more than they could chew. Maybe they did try their best.
Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
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FaxModem1 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am


Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
Relative peace for 1000 years is pretty amazing.

They had that actually.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Judici ... es/Legends
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:45 am
FaxModem1 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am


Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
Relative peace for 1000 years is pretty amazing.

They had that actually.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Judici ... es/Legends
What do you mean?
..What mirror universe?
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BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 5:11 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:45 am
FaxModem1 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am


Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
Relative peace for 1000 years is pretty amazing.

They had that actually.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Judici ... es/Legends
What do you mean?
If remember correctly the 1000 year peace before the Clone Wars exists both in canon and in Legends.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 7:18 am
BridgeConsoleMasher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 5:11 am
Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:45 am
FaxModem1 wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am


Cutting funding to the primary defense of the frontier sectors sounds like short term gains for long term losses. Especially as those sectors only had the Jedi to rely on, who were swamped due to the amount of systems in the GR while they only numbered in the thousands.

Having a federal defense force, even for police actions against pirates, is something you have to have if you want a functioning government. Whether it's apathy on the Core's part, or biting more than they can chew, the Galactic Republic was going for a tumble unless it righted itself.
Relative peace for 1000 years is pretty amazing.

They had that actually.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Judici ... es/Legends
What do you mean?
If remember correctly the 1000 year peace before the Clone Wars exists both in canon and in Legends.
Oh.
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True, but in Legends, the Jedi were arrogant idiots who didn't hunt down the last Sith. Seriously, they could have put a stop to Bane before he even began, but "those people" are "clearly unreliable sources," so they didn't invest any kind of energy into it. When they did, it was way too late.
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Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pm True, but in Legends, the Jedi were arrogant idiots who didn't hunt down the last Sith. Seriously, they could have put a stop to Bane before he even began, but "those people" are "clearly unreliable sources," so they didn't invest any kind of energy into it. When they did, it was way too late.
In 1000 years there can be someone strong enough in the Force who avoids detection anyways. He could learn from the Nighsisters or many other Dark Side traditions.
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In the Darth Bane trilogy, it was specifically shown that those in charge at the final battle didn't take the warnings seriously that the Sith had survived. By the time they did, he was in superpowered armor, that ensured he curbstomped the team sent to apprehend him, and then they framed someone else as the rogue Sith Lord at the house of a local medicine man.
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Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:22 pm In the Darth Bane trilogy, it was specifically shown that those in charge at the final battle didn't take the warnings seriously that the Sith had survived. By the time they did, he was in superpowered armor, that ensured he curbstomped the team sent to apprehend him, and then they framed someone else as the rogue Sith Lord at the house of a local medicine man.
If it wasn't them it would had been someone else and they almost stopped them anyways.
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Slash Gallagher wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 4:19 pm
Yukaphile wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 pm True, but in Legends, the Jedi were arrogant idiots who didn't hunt down the last Sith. Seriously, they could have put a stop to Bane before he even began, but "those people" are "clearly unreliable sources," so they didn't invest any kind of energy into it. When they did, it was way too late.
In 1000 years there can be someone strong enough in the Force who avoids detection anyways. He could learn from the Nighsisters or many other Dark Side traditions.
But then he or she wouldn't had been Sith unlike Darth Bane and his Rule of Two Sith. Sith have they own long history and traditions so not everyone using Dark Side of the Force is Sith.
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