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Yukaphile wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:12 am
And the sad part is, they're gonna do it again next year. And there's nothing being done to counter them. They've become the Nazi Germany of the 21st century.
I guess you never read anything about Hitler.
You have a political system and citizens elect politicians. You have the right package...
From Mueller's mouth to our ears.
Can everyone stop going "Oh paranoid Russian conspiracy! 8F" to shut us down now? PLease?
Your side is probably the most arrogant big political faction ever to exist in America. You will shut yourself down.
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:46 am
But absolutely no chance of electronic trickery. People like Orwell could see this coming a mile off... people like Einstein...
You just shut the fuck up about Orwell. Big Brother would be proud how you can deny basic facts and my understanding you just wanted to ram everything trough by force before Trump checked your xer ass.
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:50 am
In my darker moments, I sometimes hope for a war, because it sure feels a lot safer than living in a conquered world, where history is being rewritten.
Which constitutional amendments did the Russians repeal?
Mecha82 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:34 am
Sad thing is that this is allowed to happen because it benefits them and those that have bought out American politicians so things are only going to get worse.
You mean like Big Banks, Big Tech, Big Companies siding with the progressives?
That's way too overly simplistic. It was a parliamentary system. The Nazis weren't the only political party in power back then, though they quickly became the top dogs, and then the only dog. And Hitler was appointed by the President, not actually elected. Difference.
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Yukaphile wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:44 am
That's way too overly simplistic. It was a parliamentary system. The Nazis weren't the only political party in power back then, though they quickly became the top dogs, and then the only dog. And Hitler was appointed by the President, not actually elected. Difference.
Ignoring the term "body count," because we could apply that in the most base way to their WWII victims, Putin has threatened us with his big, swinging, nuclear dick, that would be the unjustified murder of millions of unarmed people. And he wants to reconquer Europe. How many would die then?
"A culture's teachings - and more importantly, the nature of its people - achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves, or find themselves lacking."
— Kreia, Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
Yukaphile wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:08 am
Paper ballots = most secure voting ever.
And a good chunk of them wouldn't be counted. Maybe for legitimate reasons, maybe for no reason at all.
We've still got paper ballots in the UK, I've not heard of any accusations of them not being counted (there's concern about postal ballot fraud but that would be a hard one for another country to interfere with).
I could be mistaken but Voting Machines are thing only in USA. To they think that most Americans can't write name on paper because at least that's how it does seems to me.
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Yeah, I am seconding the paper ballot system we have in Britain. With sufficient oversight it is actually an incredibly secure system as it goes straight from the booth to the counting hall in a padlocked box and the counters are watched over by officials the whole time. It would be very difficult to buy everyone in this process off without an alarm being raised. The idea that votes are deliberately not counted is currently a baseless conspiracy theory.
I must admit I have never heard of a voting machine before. I am having images in my head of one of those Vegas fruit machines with the big handle on the side lol.
clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:08 pmYeah, I am seconding the paper ballot system we have in Britain. With sufficient oversight it is actually an incredibly secure system as it goes straight from the booth to the counting hall in a padlocked box and the counters are watched over by officials the whole time. It would be very difficult to buy everyone in this process off without an alarm being raised. The idea that votes are deliberately not counted is currently a baseless conspiracy theory.
In Germany, literally everyone can become one of those officials by their own choosing and at any time even (I suppose it's the same in the UK). If you personally feel something could be off about the vote, you have the right to enter the facilities and watch the voting process (minus actually looking over the shoulders of the person voting, obviously) as well as during the process of counting the votes.
clearspira wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:08 pmI must admit I have never heard of a voting machine before. I am having images in my head of one of those Vegas fruit machines with the big handle on the side lol.
Imagine a simple machine that gives you a multiple choice on it's screen. You tap on the screen, the machine registers where you tapped, thus recording your vote and the counting of the votes is done electronically. It's a fairly simple and efficient system, but to anyone with an ounce of sense, a houndred ways of tempering with the system spring to mind immediatly. This is not exactly helped by the fact, that pretty much all companies in the business of building and maintaining voting machines in the US are in the hand of people with a republican affiliation.
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