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Uh...the results and conclusions section?
Sex Trafficking And Sex Tourism Are A Single Market of Exploitation:

In the sex tourism markets, demand exceeds supply of women to provide the commercial sex services which buyers are groomed to expect through advertising and popular culture. Sex traffickers fill this deficiency by delivering women and children to meet the demand of buyers in sex tourism markets. This creates a single market of sexual exploitation in which sex tourism is fueled by sex trafficking. Buyers are groomed to expect immediate and easy access to commercial sex and are demanding sex internationally and locally. This results in the trafficking of vulnerable women and children to satisfy that demand for commercial sex services. The perils of sex tourism reach both foreign and local women and children. Facilitators continue to use the same exploitation techniques for local and foreign girls. This use of local victims in a local market has altered the traditional view of sex tourism and has created a marketplace in which sex trafficking and sex tourism cannot be viewed separately.

A Culture of Tolerance for Commercial Sex Exists in Each of the Locations:

The culture of tolerance for sex markets is an environment shaped by geography, history, tradition, legislation, language, behavior and many other influences. A unique culture of tolerance exists in each of the four countries as the backdrop for the operation of commercial sex markets. Commercial sex has been normalized to such a degree that buyers no longer feel compelled to travel abroad to satisfy sexual urges.
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That excerpt's in the Executive Summary section at the start.
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What you're saying does come together. I don't see anything wrong in the finding really.
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Where is the line drawn if you draw it at all? AIUI the position in the UK is that paying for sex is not illegal (not the law's business what two people decide to get up to together, and why) but soliciting is illegal.

In general I'm on the side of letting people get on with things, and the abuse of freedom by some is no excuse at all to nanny everyone else (there are always exceptions, but that's the general principle). That seems to put me seriously at odds with modern society, which appears to live in fear and want protecting and to be treated like children for absolutely everything.
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Riedquat wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:52 amWhere is the line drawn if you draw it at all?
It's a constant balancing act between the rights of individuals and the good of society. Move too far in one direction and society falls apart, leaving everyone worse off. Move too far in the OTHER direction and society becomes so oppressive that it is no longer worth having.

Alcohol abuse causes tremendous damage to affected individuals and much more moderate, but still significant damage to society at large, but I am against prohibition, because an awful lot of people find pleasure in alcohol and trying to ban it causes more problems than solutions anyway. However, I am absolutely against legalizing polygamy even though I don't have any particular objection to consenting adults shacking up together however they please...because when practiced on any kind of scale, polygamy is social cancer, and I don't think it's in anyone's interests for the government to endorse that.

So where does prostitution fall on that scale? I'm honestly not sure. It's not a business I know very much about - I've never engaged the services of a prostitute, I don't know anyone who has ever worked as one, and the few academic studies I can find on it are decidedly mixed in their conclusions. Obviously, we can't stamp it out entirely - I'm well aware that it's happening constantly all around me - but does that mean we should legalize it? I don't know.
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The balancing act as I see it is more an issue of making it illegal somehow while not penalizing women unfairly so to speak in the process. So in that case, hampering down on the industry aspect of it and avoiding the casting of women collectively as the proprietors.
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