Trump Reinstates Federal Executions

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Considering the lengthy appeals process, the support given by those opposed to the death penalty, and the time it takes to getting to execution, I'm not overly concerned about the false convictions issue. Some people commit crimes so heinous we should not be seeking rehabilitation.

Yeah but prospect of rehabilitation isn't necessarily the concern.

[Robovski]

Considering the lengthy appeals process, the support given by those opposed to the death penalty, and the time it takes to getting to execution, I'm not overly concerned about the false convictions issue. Some people commit crimes so heinous we should not be seeking rehabilitation.

Yeah but prospect of rehabilitation isn't necessarily the concern.

One of the main aims of prison in the modern age is rehabilitation. Another older aim is punishment, isolation from the population, and deterrence, which the death penalty provides.

[Yukaphile]

Gotta agree with Robovski here. There's always a layer of "revenge" to justice. Let's not pretend otherwise. I'd disagree the death penalty is about deterrence, though, for one reason: THEY ALWAYS ASSUMED THEY'D GET AWAY WITH IT. I see this as about balancing out the negative and positive karma accumulated in a society, both on an individual and national level. But that's metaphysics, which has no business in a courtroom. Courtroom is about law and order.

[Admiral X]

Capital punishment is problematic considering how many people are wrongly condemned for one reason or other since legal system in US is what it is. It's impossible to release some one who has turned out to be not guilty after all if you have already killed him or her. Also idea that some how strong punishment will stop people doing those crimes is laughable and naive.

My thoughts as well. The people who commit these crimes either think they won't get caught, are too caught up in their emotions to even think about being caught, or are nucking futs, and thus are also not thinking about being caught. Plus, I think we should at least try to pretend that we're civilized.

[BridgeConsoleMasher]

Considering the lengthy appeals process, the support given by those opposed to the death penalty, and the time it takes to getting to execution, I'm not overly concerned about the false convictions issue. Some people commit crimes so heinous we should not be seeking rehabilitation.

Yeah but prospect of rehabilitation isn't necessarily the concern.

One of the main aims of prison in the modern age is rehabilitation. Another older aim is punishment, isolation from the population, and deterrence, which the death penalty provides.

Yep. And one of the ones we move away from is punishment. If you're going to rest on the state going so far as to execute people for deterrence then that's a big concern with a lot of people.

Put another way, public provision to execute people is a very drastic and serious thing.

[Draco Dracul]

I think the death penalty should be reserved for treason, otherwise the much cheaper LWOP will do the job just fine.

[Yukaphile]

Treason? Worse than sexual abuse, a severely underreported and underpunished crime? I'd say not.

[Mecha82]

I think the death penalty should be reserved for treason, otherwise the much cheaper LWOP will do the job just fine.

What is considered legit treason? Remember wikileaks case were sentence for treason was made because information that White House and Pentagon didn't want public to know was leaked. What says that they wouldn't then start executing people just for speaking against Government on made up treason charges.

[Draco Dracul]

I think the death penalty should be reserved for treason, otherwise the much cheaper LWOP will do the job just fine.

What is considered legit treason? Remember wikileaks case were sentence for treason was made because information that White House and Pentagon didn't want public to know was leaked. What says that they wouldn't then start executing people just for speaking against Government on made up treason charges.

No I don't, because that didn't happen. No one has been tried for treason since 1952.

[Mecha82]

I think the death penalty should be reserved for treason, otherwise the much cheaper LWOP will do the job just fine.

What is considered legit treason? Remember wikileaks case were sentence for treason was made because information that White House and Pentagon didn't want public to know was leaked. What says that they wouldn't then start executing people just for speaking against Government on made up treason charges.

No I don't, because that didn't happen. No one has been tried for treason since 1952.

Then why he was in solitary confinement from that? If he wasn't tried then why he was forced to endure all that that he did because that would make USA human rights violator.